India existed as a nation state prior to the British, as did China. Next?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > So was India... > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:40 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > They were a British protectorate under that mandate, not a nation state, > > nice try though. > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > durig the crusades it was its own kingdom. from 1918 through 1949 it > > > was an independent country ruled under a League of Nations Mandate. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > A subset of the roman empire yes? > > > > > > > > As in not an independent nation state? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Romans called it Palestine after they sent the Jews on their > > > diaspora...it > > > >> wasn't a subset, but the entire area... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > > >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:59 PM > > > >> To: cf-community > > > >> Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border And > > > Waiting > > > >> For A Western Attack > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> When was it anything else but a subsection of another country? > > > >> > > > >> You know when? When it was Judea, that's when. > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > >> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > How is that? There is documentation going back to the Roman > empire > > > >> > calling he region Palestine... > > > >> > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > > > >> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:04 PM > > > >> > To: cf-community > > > >> > Subject: Re: Russia Is Massing Troops On Iran's Northern Border > And > > > >> > Waiting For A Western Attack > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Agreed. > > > >> > > > > >> > That's why the way I see out of this mess requires us to use > > > >> > overwhelming force against them. To the point of capitulation. > > > >> > > > > >> > This won't work as a one nation solution though. > > > >> > > > > >> > Ok, look, I have spent years of my life in Muslim countries. Not > > just > > > >> > Afghanistan, but places like Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar, and > > various > > > >> > stans. > > > >> > There are distinct cultural differences in many of these > countries, > > > >> > but Islam is the one unifying force, the Umma. Islam is not just > a > > > >> > religion, but a social and political system as well. It requires > > > >> > total submission of the individual and the will, suspension of > > logic. > > > >> > It was started by a merchant warlord who also happened to be a > > > >> > pedophile, who advocated the murder, rape and enslavement of > > anyone > > > >> > who didn't agree with his ideas. I have read of the Qur'an and > the > > > >> > Sunnah, and I know what they say. This so called religion of > peace > > > >> > has been an evil bloody thorn in our side since before the > founding > > of > > > >> > our nation (Barbary wars?) and will continue to be so until it is > > > >> > stamped out. It is an ideology as evil, or even more so, as that > of > > > >> > fascism or communism. > > > >> > > > > >> > You can lie, cheat and steal from the infidel, take them as > slaves, > > > >> > sexually assault them, charge them fess to live among you. Free > > > >> > speech and free will are totally alien concepts. > > > >> > > > > >> > I am not a man of strong religious convictions., a true agnostic, > I > > > >> > have no idea what if anything is out there. To be honest I don't > > > >> > understand anyone, no matter the religion, that claims to have > > > >> > knowledge of the "true faith". > > > >> > Yet I see in Islam something worse then simple religion. Maybe > > there > > > >> > can be a reformation, like with Christianity. I have my doubts > > where > > > >> > that is concerned though. > > > >> > > > > >> > The minority of "moderate muslims", and I do know some, refuse to > > take > > > >> > a stand against their brothers in most cases, because they know > that > > > >> > the extremists are correct in their readings, and that their > actions > > > >> > are blessed by the religious establishments, and called for by > their > > > >> > guiding books. > > > >> > > > > >> > Islam (the word in Arabic) means submission. It's teachings and > > > >> > principles follow from that starting pioint. > > > >> > > > > >> > It is more complex even, hell I know it ends the argument, but > many > > of > > > >> > the current crop of issues we have can even be tied directly to > the > > > >> > Nazi's, the Baath parties were founded by men that modeled them > > > >> > directly on the NSDAP and they were supported politically and > > > >> > financially by the Nazis. The "Palestinian Issue" was further > > > >> > inflamed by the Nazis (not to mention that no such country of > > > Palestine > > > >> ever existed but thats another argument). > > > >> > > > > >> > I don't see many things as EVILT, but in Islam I find the label > > > fitting. > > > >> > > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Look, we screwed up, overthrew their government and put a tin > > pot > > > >> > > dictator > > > >> > > > in power. They revolted and created their bat shit crazy > > Islamic > > > >> > > > republic. It should have and could have ended there. I mean > it > > > >> > > > took us > > > >> > > a > > > >> > > > while to get ove the revolutionary war, but now we're the best > > of > > > >> > > > friends with England. These guys just really don't know when > to > > > >> > > > let > > > >> > shit go. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > After the embassy hostages were released when they were so > > scared > > > >> > > > of > > > >> > > Reagan > > > >> > > > they could have reentered the world stage, but instead went > > into a > > > >> > > > long protracted war with Iraq. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Do I know bad decision were made by the CIA? Yes. That > doesn't > > > >> > > > mean > > > >> > > they > > > >> > > > should be shipping weapons to Afghans decades later. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > well that's the problem. Once you start fucking with people, > > there's > > > >> > > no guarantee they are going to stop fucking with you back...just > > > >> > > because you ask them nicely or call "time out" > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
