Yeah..it's not codified, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  I wouldn't
use anyone...there are still lots of limits to upward mobility in this
country.

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:39 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Zimmerman charged in Martin's death...


Whatever man, the aristocracy were the nobles, the ruling class.  There
isn't any such thing codified in law in the U.S.  Anyone can rise to any
station through their own merits.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:

>
> Patrician certain fits...
>
>  pa·tri·cian /pəˈtrɪʃən/
> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>Show
> Spelled[p
> uh-trish-uhn]
> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html>Show 
> IPA  noun 1.
> a person of noble <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/noble> or 
> high rank; aristocrat.
> 2.
> a person of very good background, education, and refinement.
> 3.
> a member of the original senatorial aristocracy in ancient Rome.
> 4.
> (under the later Roman and Byzantine empires) a title or dignity 
> conferred by the emperor.
> 5.
> a member of a hereditary ruling class in certain medieval German, 
> Swiss, and Italian free cities.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >  nobleman - patrician - noble?
> >
> > Miss that part?
> >
> > We have no aristocracy in America.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Eric Roberts <  
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > They were very much the American aristocracy.  They were rich 
> > > white guys...most of whom inheritied it.  Some earned it.  Most
inherited.
> > > Besides, what of your definition denies that they weren't?  They 
> > > were members of the American aristocracy...making them aristocrats.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:21 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > *a·ris·to·crat*/əˈristəˌkrat/Noun:
> > > >
> > > >   1. A member of the aristocracy: "an aristocrat by birth".
> > > >   2. Something believed to be the best of its kind: "the trout is
the
> > > >   aristocrat of freshwater fish".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Synonyms:
> > > > nobleman - patrician - noble - peer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So no, they weren't.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Eric Roberts <  
> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > keeping in mind that with all the nobility of most of thier
> actions,
> > > > these
> > > > > were all also artistocrats...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, LRS Scout 
> > > > > <lrssc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, so whats the solution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, and I'm sure you would
> disagree,
> > > > right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not that either of them will likely be on my ballot, so I 
> > > > > > will
> > likely
> > > > > write
> > > > > > in a candidate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Eric Roberts < 
> > > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would agree with Maureen...if you are not part of the
> > > > solution...you
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > part of the problem...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Maureen <
> mamamaur...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And I repeat, even thought I am sure it is a waste of 
> > > > > > > > time,
> >  all
> > > of
> > > > > > > > those candidates have supporters and contributors in 
> > > > > > > > your
> group
> > > of
> > > > > > > > "decent people".  If they did not they would not have won
any
> > > > > > > > primaries or election.   Not everyone who vote for a
> candidate
> > > does
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > > because they don't like the opponent.  Santorum, Romney 
> > > > > > > > and
> > Obama
> > > > all
> > > > > > > > have rabid supporters.  Are you denying that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Barnes <
> > > > critic...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "All of those megalomaniacs have supporters, 
> > > > > > > > > contributors
> and
> > > > > voters
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > your pool of decent people."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maureen, I don't know how I can explain it any clearer.
>  I'll
> > > > try,
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > though I am pretty sure it'll be a waste of time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Let's take Rick Santorum.  Many people voted for him
> because
> > he
> > > > was
> > > > > > NOT
> > > > > > > > > Mitt Romney.  Now, that Romney has pretty much wrapped 
> > > > > > > > > up
> the
> > > > > > > nomination,
> > > > > > > > > many people will vote for him because he is NOT Obama.
>  They
> > > are
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > "supporters" in the traditional sense.  They are 
> > > > > > > > > choosing
> the
> > > > > lesser
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > evils (in their opinion at le
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 



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