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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:56 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah tell that to our mixed race child of a single mother president.
>
> So tell me the Eric, what are those limits at this point?  Who enforces
> them?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah..it's not codified, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  I
>> wouldn't
>> use anyone...there are still lots of limits to upward mobility in this
>> country.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:39 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Zimmerman charged in Martin's death...
>>
>>
>> Whatever man, the aristocracy were the nobles, the ruling class.  There
>> isn't any such thing codified in law in the U.S.  Anyone can rise to any
>> station through their own merits.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Patrician certain fits...
>> >
>> >  pa·tri·cian /pəˈtrɪʃən/
>> > <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>Show
>> > Spelled[p
>> > uh-trish-uhn]
>> > <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html>Show
>> > IPA  noun 1.
>> > a person of noble <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/noble> or
>> > high rank; aristocrat.
>> > 2.
>> > a person of very good background, education, and refinement.
>> > 3.
>> > a member of the original senatorial aristocracy in ancient Rome.
>> > 4.
>> > (under the later Roman and Byzantine empires) a title or dignity
>> > conferred by the emperor.
>> > 5.
>> > a member of a hereditary ruling class in certain medieval German,
>> > Swiss, and Italian free cities.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >  nobleman - patrician - noble?
>> > >
>> > > Miss that part?
>> > >
>> > > We have no aristocracy in America.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > They were very much the American aristocracy.  They were rich
>> > > > white guys...most of whom inheritied it.  Some earned it.  Most
>> inherited.
>> > > > Besides, what of your definition denies that they weren't?  They
>> > > > were members of the American aristocracy...making them aristocrats.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:21 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > *a·ris·to·crat*/əˈristəˌkrat/Noun:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >   1. A member of the aristocracy: "an aristocrat by birth".
>> > > > >   2. Something believed to be the best of its kind: "the trout is
>> the
>> > > > >   aristocrat of freshwater fish".
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Synonyms:
>> > > > > nobleman - patrician - noble - peer
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So no, they weren't.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > keeping in mind that with all the nobility of most of thier
>> > actions,
>> > > > > these
>> > > > > > were all also artistocrats...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, LRS Scout
>> > > > > > <lrssc...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Ok, so whats the solution?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I think Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, and I'm sure you would
>> > disagree,
>> > > > > right?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Not that either of them will likely be on my ballot, so I
>> > > > > > > will
>> > > likely
>> > > > > > write
>> > > > > > > in a candidate.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> > > > > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I would agree with Maureen...if you are not part of the
>> > > > > solution...you
>> > > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > part of the problem...
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Maureen <
>> > mamamaur...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > And I repeat, even thought I am sure it is a waste of
>> > > > > > > > > time,
>> > >  all
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > those candidates have supporters and contributors in
>> > > > > > > > > your
>> > group
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > "decent people".  If they did not they would not have won
>> any
>> > > > > > > > > primaries or election.   Not everyone who vote for a
>> > candidate
>> > > > does
>> > > > > > so
>> > > > > > > > > because they don't like the opponent.  Santorum, Romney
>> > > > > > > > > and
>> > > Obama
>> > > > > all
>> > > > > > > > > have rabid supporters.  Are you denying that?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Barnes <
>> > > > > critic...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > "All of those megalomaniacs have supporters,
>> > > > > > > > > > contributors
>> > and
>> > > > > > voters
>> > > > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > > > > your pool of decent people."
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Maureen, I don't know how I can explain it any clearer.
>> >  I'll
>> > > > > try,
>> > > > > > > even
>> > > > > > > > > > though I am pretty sure it'll be a waste of time.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Let's take Rick Santorum.  Many people voted for him
>> > because
>> > > he
>> > > > > was
>> > > > > > > NOT
>> > > > > > > > > > Mitt Romney.  Now, that Romney has pretty much wrapped
>> > > > > > > > > > up
>> > the
>> > > > > > > > nomination,
>> > > > > > > > > > many people will vote for him because he is NOT Obama.
>> >  They
>> > > > are
>> > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > > > > "supporters" in the traditional sense.  They are
>> > > > > > > > > > choosing
>> > the
>> > > > > > lesser
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > two
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