God I hate the world some days. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > There was another incident today in San Antonio, where a mother decapitated > her infant son and ate part of his brain and toes... > > -----Original Message----- > From: PT [mailto:cft...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 7:58 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The Zombie Apocolypse is starting... > > > On 5/29/2012 7:39 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:26 PM, PT<cft...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> If I were the victim, I would tell the cop to fill him up. > > > > Which is why we have trained police officers deal with these > > situations and not freaked out victims. > > I doubt they covered this particular type of incident at cop school. > > >> Chewing on someone's face is a seriously life threatening situation. > >> I would treat the attacker as if he were armed with a knife. If you > >> wield a fatal weapon, be prepared to be subjected to deadly force. > > > > Every person has teeth, therefore by this logic, everyone who may use > > their teeth should be prepared to be shot with a gun. > > That is not what I said at all. So you can apply logic to a nonexistent > point as much as you want. Doing so changes nothing. > > We generally > > also train police to take down people even wielding knives with less > > than deadly force. > > BS. We know that if a person with a knife gets within 20 feet of an > officer > who has their handgun holstered, the attacker can be on the officer and > cause a fatal wound before the officer can draw their weapon to fire .. > even > if the attacker announces their intention before they begin. > > Sure, everyone has teeth. Many people have knives too. The problem comes > when you start using them as deadly weapons. If you do, you shouldn't be > surprised that someone uses deadly force in return. I don't expect the > police to bust in my kitchen and shoot me because I am slicing a tomato, > but > I would expect them to shoot my ass if I were holding that knife to > someone's throat. Do you really think they should try batons or tasers in > such an situation? > > I have seen tasers fail. I have seen people not jacked up on drugs walk > off > a bean bag hit. Unfortunately, the only sure thing available was probably > the pistol. what do you do? You can choose a less than lethal device > which > is not guaranteed to have the desired effect and maybe waste time or put > the > officer in immediate danger, or go with with the almost 100% sure bet and > shoot the attacker and probably save the victim. > > You can stand there with your taser trying to put down a guy who is batshit > insane and is likely feeling no pain, and only end up pissing him off if > you > want. The dude was actively endangering the other guy's life. Each bite > could have easily been fatal. Deadly force was acceptable. > > > I sure as hell am glad you aren't a cop. > > So am I. They have to make too many life and death decisions quickly. > This situation did not have a perfect outcome, but the officer lived and > the > victim lived (so far), so it is acceptable considering the circumstances. > > > As stated earlier in the thread, there are many options available to > > try and remove a threat far short of using your gun. Batons, tasers, > > bean bag rounds, etc. No one was saying that the police shouldn't have > > stepped in to help the victim. They were saying that the police, in > > this case, seem to have skipped over a bunch of less lethal options > > and gone right to using their guns. Generally considered a mark of > > poor training. > > Or a sign that they had fewer options than you seem to think they had. > > > > > J > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:351593 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
