So its ok to torture prisoners. So what's to stop the enemies from using the same methods on our people? Why must we stoop to their level.
Bluntly put you're wrong about this Tim deeply wrong. By condoning torture you're making yourself like the Taliban or AQ. There is a reason for these rules against torture. It not only brutalizes the victim, it does the same not only to the people doing the torture but those in the same company. The men doing the torture are not longer disciplined soldiers but undisciplined brutal thugs who deserve not to be considered soldiers. Every time we've engaged in torture we've ended up losing the conflict in the long term - Philippines, Vietnam, Somalia, Afghanistan. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:40 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Honestly, yes I should. > > To my mind that convention should never have been signed, but that doesn't > mean we can ignore it. > > War can't be fought according to rules. It should only be done to totally > destroy the capabilities and will of the enemy. > > That being said this is a pretty damned minor violation, and I don't equate > being roghed up with torture. > > Now, take a look at what ti has to say about spies and sabatuers, summary > execution, so dude got off easy to my mind. > On Nov 20, 2012 5:33 PM, "Judah McAuley" <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: > > > > > Geneva Convention, Article 17. You ought to know that one off the top of > > your head, Tim. > > > > "No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be > > inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind > > whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, > > insulted or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any > > kind." > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Really? > > > > > > Law? > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Uh huh. I hear that line from cops in Portland a lot too. > > > > > > > > Good thing cops and soldiers never say that sort of thing to white > wash > > > the > > > > beating of a suspect. > > > > > > > > Yup. All the rest of the torture was incidental, I'm sure. > > > > > > > > And, for the record, making someone think they are about to die by > > > shooting > > > > a bullet next to their head is, in fact, illegal. > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:18 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He got beat because he went for a weapon. Popping off a round near > > him > > > > > isn't torture. Cops in the US have done similar things, and > actually > > > > have > > > > > much more leeway when dealing with prisoners than we do. > > > > > > > > > > Making him think something isn't illegal. The cops use it al the > > time > > > > and > > > > > it's been found that lying and threatening are protected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:358653 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
