I'm not surprised, you were an officer, and let's be honest Canadians are way more into these kinds of things than we Americans are.
Although I think you guys screwed up with your Airborne and SOF forces before the JTF. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote: > > I learned my stuff from a set of very good Canadian military lawyers. They > later trained the lawyers who later went on to try the members of the > airborne regiment who tortured and killed that Somali teenager. We followed > the full protocols and had that endlessly drilled into us. A guy I went > through basic with was kicked out during our 2nd training summer for > roughing up an opfor during an exercise. the formal charge was a geneva > conventions violation. He got to resign instead, which pissed off the rest > of us. > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:21 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Interpreted by some, not by anyone that ever trained me. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > He was an allied police officer. He was on the same side. > > > > > > That said, according to how the 3rd Convention is interpreted - quoting > > > from the ICRC here which governs the Geneva Conventions: > > > > > > http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/misc/57jnuy.htm > > > > > > " Consequently, the Protocol relaxed the obligation for combatants to > > wear > > > a distinctive sign at all times, something which guerrilla fighters > > > consider an obstacle to successful operations. The Protocol requires > > > combatants to distinguish themselves from the civilian population while > > > they are engaged in an attack or in a military operation preparatory to > > an > > > attack. What is more, in particular instances (occupied territories, > > > so-called asymetric conflicts setting regular armed forces against > > > guerrilla fighters), it suffices for guerrilla fighters to distinguish > > > themselves from the civilian population by carrying their arms openly > > (i.e. > > > visibly) during military engagements and before launching an attack. " > > > > > > The uniform requirement is bs then. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:58 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Geneva doesn't apply. Dude was not in a uniform, with a flag, or > > > carrying > > > > a Geneva convention ID card. All of which are required for the > > > convention > > > > to pertan. > > > > > > > > That being said, we shouldn't have been there in the first place. > > > > > > > > Look man, you've never had to wonder if you were gonna get raped and > > have > > > > your head cut off, it was a regular topic of conversation for us. > > > > Something we had to deal with and think about how we'd rather eat our > > > last > > > > bullet than be caught by the enemy. > > > > > > > > In the end though, you're right we need to be involved in far less > > > > conflicts, none without an actual declaration of war as far as I'm > > > > concerned. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beating a human being, threatening them with death and making them > > > > believe > > > > > that they are about to die will never be minor. Ever. > > > > > > > > > > The fact that the guy that West threatened also appears to be > > entirely > > > > > innocent is apparently beside the fact to you. > > > > > > > > > > The fact that the guy that West beat was supposed to be our ally > also > > > is > > > > > apparently beside the fact to you. > > > > > > > > > > I understand your point about war, but that's not how we are > > supposedly > > > > > fighting it. Add in the fact that we invaded a sovereign country > > under > > > > the > > > > > auspices of lies and we created the damn "enemy" ourselves and you > > > start > > > > to > > > > > understand why I think that Bush was a war criminal. > > > > > > > > > > War is hell. And we need to be involved in a lot less of them. None > > the > > > > > less, West signed up under a set of rules and he flagrantly > disobeyed > > > > them. > > > > > He committed immoral and illegal acts and ought to have gone to > jail. > > > He > > > > > got off easy. > > > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:40 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honestly, yes I should. > > > > > > > > > > > > To my mind that convention should never have been signed, but > that > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > mean we can ignore it. > > > > > > > > > > > > War can't be fought according to rules. It should only be done > to > > > > > totally > > > > > > destroy the capabilities and will of the enemy. > > > > > > > > > > > > That being said this is a pretty damned minor violation, and I > > don't > > > > > equate > > > > > > being roghed up with torture. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, take a look at what ti has to say about spies and sabatuers, > > > > summary > > > > > > execution, so dude got off easy to my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:358660 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
