I learned my stuff from a set of very good Canadian military lawyers. They later trained the lawyers who later went on to try the members of the airborne regiment who tortured and killed that Somali teenager. We followed the full protocols and had that endlessly drilled into us. A guy I went through basic with was kicked out during our 2nd training summer for roughing up an opfor during an exercise. the formal charge was a geneva conventions violation. He got to resign instead, which pissed off the rest of us.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:21 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Interpreted by some, not by anyone that ever trained me. > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > > > He was an allied police officer. He was on the same side. > > > > That said, according to how the 3rd Convention is interpreted - quoting > > from the ICRC here which governs the Geneva Conventions: > > > > http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/misc/57jnuy.htm > > > > " Consequently, the Protocol relaxed the obligation for combatants to > wear > > a distinctive sign at all times, something which guerrilla fighters > > consider an obstacle to successful operations. The Protocol requires > > combatants to distinguish themselves from the civilian population while > > they are engaged in an attack or in a military operation preparatory to > an > > attack. What is more, in particular instances (occupied territories, > > so-called asymetric conflicts setting regular armed forces against > > guerrilla fighters), it suffices for guerrilla fighters to distinguish > > themselves from the civilian population by carrying their arms openly > (i.e. > > visibly) during military engagements and before launching an attack. " > > > > The uniform requirement is bs then. > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:58 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Geneva doesn't apply. Dude was not in a uniform, with a flag, or > > carrying > > > a Geneva convention ID card. All of which are required for the > > convention > > > to pertan. > > > > > > That being said, we shouldn't have been there in the first place. > > > > > > Look man, you've never had to wonder if you were gonna get raped and > have > > > your head cut off, it was a regular topic of conversation for us. > > > Something we had to deal with and think about how we'd rather eat our > > last > > > bullet than be caught by the enemy. > > > > > > In the end though, you're right we need to be involved in far less > > > conflicts, none without an actual declaration of war as far as I'm > > > concerned. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Beating a human being, threatening them with death and making them > > > believe > > > > that they are about to die will never be minor. Ever. > > > > > > > > The fact that the guy that West threatened also appears to be > entirely > > > > innocent is apparently beside the fact to you. > > > > > > > > The fact that the guy that West beat was supposed to be our ally also > > is > > > > apparently beside the fact to you. > > > > > > > > I understand your point about war, but that's not how we are > supposedly > > > > fighting it. Add in the fact that we invaded a sovereign country > under > > > the > > > > auspices of lies and we created the damn "enemy" ourselves and you > > start > > > to > > > > understand why I think that Bush was a war criminal. > > > > > > > > War is hell. And we need to be involved in a lot less of them. None > the > > > > less, West signed up under a set of rules and he flagrantly disobeyed > > > them. > > > > He committed immoral and illegal acts and ought to have gone to jail. > > He > > > > got off easy. > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:40 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honestly, yes I should. > > > > > > > > > > To my mind that convention should never have been signed, but that > > > > doesn't > > > > > mean we can ignore it. > > > > > > > > > > War can't be fought according to rules. It should only be done to > > > > totally > > > > > destroy the capabilities and will of the enemy. > > > > > > > > > > That being said this is a pretty damned minor violation, and I > don't > > > > equate > > > > > being roghed up with torture. > > > > > > > > > > Now, take a look at what ti has to say about spies and sabatuers, > > > summary > > > > > execution, so dude got off easy to my mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:358659 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
