why do you assume that this is a matter of personal responsibility or lack thereof on anyone's part? He lived a very isolated life combined with moderate to severe Aspergers. This is not a case of his parent had not divorced or he had not been disciplined enough or spanked enough etc. It seems to me what you're doing there is mapping your own anxieties and fears onto the event.
The fact is we do not know and will probably never know the causes of this tragedy. Any chance of that ended with Lanza. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "Yes, I have clear cut morals. I'm sure you have clear cut morals also." > > Of course. Everyone has morals. The central questions are: What morals > do we as citizens of the US have in common? Is this common ground big > enough to define the morals for a country? Has this pool of common morals > decreased over the generations? > > > "I just would like to know what morals you're saying are being usurped by > the rise of moral relativism?" > > This is a can of worms I do not want to and will not open. It always > devolves and goes astray. For example, I can say I believe stealing is > wrong. This will be quickly countered with the "But what if you or your > family is starving?". The same goes for murder. "But what if it is self > defense or will save a certain number of lives." As stated before, > philosophers have been debating morals for millennia and still are. You > and I cannot add anything to that discussion. > > > As far as moral relativism, read my original post: > > "With the rise of moral relativism, no personal accountability, and the > culture of blame, that is prevalent in the US, they may be right." > > When I wrote that, I was thinking about this young man who committed this > atrocity and what led to his actions. Religion never crossed my mind, but > it was the changes in our society. Again, the lack of personal > accountability, the lack of parents holding children accountable, the > refusal of teachers and parents to tell a child he or she is wrong, the > craziness of people blaming others for all their own problems, the instant > gratification state of the nation making citizens unwilling to wait or work > towards a goal, the pure selfishness that is exuded in all facets of > society, the inability of people to lose with dignity, the lack of respect > by adolescents for adults, superiors, and parents, the willingness of so > many to not honor commitments, and so on. > > To you, these may not be issues. If they are issues to you, maybe you do > not believe they are related to morals. To be frank, I really don't care > what you think. I'll say that I do believe these are issues and that they > are tied to morals (or a lack of common morals). I do believe that these > issues are growing larger. > > J > > - > > Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in > the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges > that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen > has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face > of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To > choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for > principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, > most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to > give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all - Michael Rivero > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:359506 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
