Which is both his and Judith's point. It's been translated and re-written so many times, what are the original writings if there are any to begin with. For all we know, this could have been a creation of the Council of Nicea...
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: I give up "Even claiming to know what Jesus (or anyone in the Bible) really said can be debated." Of course it's debatable. Anything attributed to a historical figure from thousands of years ago is debatable. "It's what the church *claims* he said. Which, as Judith pointed out earlier in this thread is ((translation of a translation) ^ N) of a text that was written by a group of people who's identity or intentions are impossible to verify (at worst) or a faithful conclusion based on minimal evidence (at best)." All I would say is "Which church?" The Roman Catholic, the Anglican, Greek Orthodox, Protestants, etc. Or the Church that formed within months of the death of Jesus, which contained many people who were alive during the life of Jesus, including apostles and disciples. Some of these letters from the period date as early as 51AD. While people claim Jesus may have meant one thing or another, anyone who is interested can research on his or her own using information that is very close to the source in order to make their own informed opinion. J - You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. When half of the people get an idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. - Adrian Pierce Rogers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:359565 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
