You know, I don't understand why any comment made on a mailing list (and something said in an argument about politics or constitutional rights, no less) would be reason to email someone offlist and tell them to F*** off. I consider that highly offensive, rude, and unprofessional. I'm totally with you on this, Brian. If you find this happening on a regular basis, and it becomes harassment from any one individual, please bring it to my attention offlist.
Let's remember that this is a professional forum, and that anything you post (onlist or offlist) does reflect on you professionally. Please have the common courtesy not to harass members of this list. Just ignore those idiots, Brian. Don't waste any more time on them -- that's what they made the delete key for. Judith > Tim (and whoever else reads this), > > Firstly, I agree, and respect, your stance. > > I agree with you about "I think as a business owner you should be able to hire, >fire, promote and exclude anyone you feel like it for any reason", remember that I >fired the guy because I found his behavior to be unacceptable. Could he have brought >me to court over it? Maybe. Screw him. It's my company, he violated my policies, >and I gave him the boot. > > I think that if we were to talk, you would see that I'm in full agreement with "I am >an American. I am a constitutionalist. I believe in the 1st Amendment". Like you, >I too volunteered a number of years of my life to protect the freedom and rights of >Americans, and I'd live nowhere else. > > My argument, and I don't even want to call it an argument, is that there is a >minimal level of maturity, professionalism, and respect that I expect from people. > > It's amazing. I know there are a number of lurkers on this list, and most of us >have email addresses on the side that we know no one else knows we have. I've >actually received 8, off-list emails since I made my original post. > > -A few telling me to "F off" > -One to "F off and move to Canada" (I didn't quite get his/her point, but I think >it's the same wiseass that said that to me a year ago when I posted something about >guns [Note: I own one, regardless of the point I was making a year ago]) > -One saying "Thanks for the post, Brain, it's tough to be gay..." > -And surprisingly (or not), a few containing just one word, "faggot". > > The "faggot" ones demonstrate my point, though... Did they have the _right_ to say >that? Yup. Do I respect that right? Yup. If these unidentified people ever sent >me a resume, regardless of their qualifications, would I consider hiring them? >Absolutly not. > > Part of my point is that as adults, I feel a (like I said above) minimum level of >maturity needs to be demonstrated before someone opens their mouth. > > A good example: > A few months ago I was keeping an eye on the CF-Jobs and CF-Jobs-Talk lists, as I >was looking to hire two developers for a 3 month project. (The position, by the way, >was full-time, telecommuting, and paid $7000 a month. Not bad, huh?) All it took >was a few people talking like drunken frat boys for me to drop a friendly reminder, >aimed at no one specific, saying, "You might want to watch what you say here, as >there are a few people with a fistful of cash watching." A few of them had the nerve >to email me off-list telling me to piss off. Fine, they went on my shitlist (pardon >me). One of them actually had the impudence to send me an offensive email from >account, and then a resume for the position I vaguely mentioned from another account. > How do I know it was the same person? Because the moron didn't pay attention to his >signature file. The same name, address, phone number, on both the "F-off" and the "I >have excellent communication skills" emails. > > That is what I'm trying to get at. Put a rifle back in my hands, a uniform on my >back, and I'll go back and defend my (and yours and his and hers...) right to say >whatever I want. But for Christ's sake, think before you speak. > > I've received 2 more emails since I started this, both telling me to f off. Do they >really expect me to write back? > > Nope, I don't have time to waste. > > I have a holiday to celebrate. > > Happy Thanksgiving, Tim (and everyone else), God bless America, and God help the >stupid and ignorant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
