SPERM DONOR and 1 SPERM RECEPTACLE.
But that doesn't mean anything. Being a parent is more then just giving
or taking a load of man sauce.
I'm a parent and I've never gotten anyone pregnant before. Well there
was one but she mysteriously disappeared *evil laugh..J/k*.
Being a parent is so mindnumbling complicated, hard, trying, wonderful
and so damn rewarding that if you're straight, pink, purple, blue, or
gay and you can be a good parent. And if you pull it off and do a good
job I tip my cap to you and I will give you the complete and total
respect that you deserve. I've only been doing it for 5 years and its
like wow. I'm 19 and have a wife and 2 kids to take care of I instantly
knew alot of what my father had to go through with me and our 8 kids
LOL.
So I don't care who sexual preference someone who is a good parent is a
good parent and if its 2 good dads great if its 2 good moms and a dad
awesome. Whatever it takes to raise a kid to be a awesome member of
society. You know those will be some of the best people a kid raised by
gays has the potential to be one of the MOST open minded forward
thinking type of person out there.
--
Bill Wheatley
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:03 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: You People
But Matt,
Aren't these same issues possible in a traditional marriage with kids?
What about a kid who's father was infertile, so they used a sperm donor?
What about a surrogate mother?
What about adopted kids?
What about a kid whose parents divorce before birth, and the
mother/father remarries?
Families that have 1 each of mother and father, and 2 each of
grandparents are no longer in the majority.
Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/03 12:00PM >>>
You're missing the main point - in a same sex marriage, only one person
is the biological parent (assuming no adoption). What happens when a
bi-sexual married female has sex with a man and gets pregnant - who are
the parents? Both women and the guy?
- Matt Small
----- Original Message -----
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC)
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: You People
>> What happens when a same-sex couple divorces? Who gets the child?
Who pays alimony?
Are these questions any clearer in traditional marriages?
>> WIll be be ok for any two people to get married just for the
benefits?
People do this all the time already, either contractually for legal
benefits, or to gain the "roomie" benefits in common law marriages.
Matthew
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:43 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: You People
What happens when a same-sex couple divorces? Who gets the child?
Who pays alimony? WIll be be ok for any two people to get married just
for the benefits? A couple of guys are roommates, one needs health
insurance, the other has it so they get married. In the military, a
person gets extra money to live off base when he/she gets married - will
that apply to a couple of privates who don't want to live in the
barracks? There are a lot of issues that this will confound.
- Matt Small
----- Original Message -----
From: Haggerty, Mike
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: You People
I'm not sure this is guilt some much as my stupid-people sense
kicking
in. I mean, I'm not rapidly opposed to the idea, I can just see
situations where it might be put to bad use.
Soemthing strikes me as odd when two guys could watch the Red Sox
play a
1:00 game, get wasted on Schlitz, and end up at a county courthouse
later that day with the full legal right to get married. That's not
catholic guilt, that's a joke people were telling back in the 50s.
Or a fraternity could use it as a hazing ritual, getting all the
plebes
married off to one another. I have seen this done in mock fashion,
and I
know people who would have made kids go all the way (and kids who
would
have).
Or a gang thing where you have to prove how hardcore you are.
Imagine if downtrodden men were marrying themselves off to help
immigrants get citizenship. Panhandlers will beat themselves up with
sticks for a $20, why not marriage?
It just strikes me as running counter to the stated aims of the
instituion of marriage, to bring social and financial stablity to a
country. People could easily abuse this for short-term gain,
amusement,
status, etc. The bar would need to be set fairly high in order to
avoid
the problems that go along with it.
M
-----Original Message-----
From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:05 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: You People
>I blame the Liberals on this list for derailing my train of
thought.
>Nobody ever talk about same sex marriage again, it gives me the
willies.
That's just your catholic guilt reflex kicking in man. You'll get
over
it
:)
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:05 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: You People
I had something important I was going to respond to, where someone
asked
a question and didn't get a response. I had it all thought out and
was
getting ready to put it to email, when someone asked me something
about
stylesheets here in the office. I helped him out, then that thread
about
Massachusetts came up and I had to post something dumb.
Now I can't remember what I was going to say, or who I was going to
respond to. I looked through all the messages (handily sorted by
Microsoft Outlook 2003, the best email editor there is or ever will
be)
and realized I cannot find what I was going to respond to.
...
I blame the Liberals on this list for derailing my train of thought.
Nobody ever talk about same sex marriage again, it gives me the
willies.
M
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