no way trying to compare the Blackwater guys to terrorists. I was only
refuting the point that John (I think) made regarding the Palestinians
in this country only being here for the money and not caring about the
country. It was a minor comparison.
I read an excellent article a couple weeks ago in GQ where the
journalist spent a week or two with some of the security guys in Iraq. I
don't remember what firm they were with, but I do remember that these
are some strong, courageous guys. There is no amount of money that I
could be paid to take the job that they do. I realize that in most cases
the guys over there trying to do security are in it for more than the
money, I was just being argumentative.
Anyway, if it does turn out that your friend was lost, my sympathies.
The situation really sucks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:49 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Nice people....
We think that one of the Black Water consultants that was recently
killed
was a good friend of mine. He was a team leader in my national guard
unit.
He had already served in both OIF and OEF with the 75th Ranger Regiment.
While I know that the money helped make his decision, he also cares
deeply
about the people in both countries. He is a freedom loving man, quick
to
laugh. He joked that he wanted to be a professional wrestler.
We haven't heard back from his family or Black Water as to his status
just
yet.
I can tell you one thing. You cannot compare Hammas or Islamic Jihad
members that go looking for civilian targets to this man. He would
never
intentionally harm anyone that wasn't trying to harm him or his unit.
The
Black Water people over there aren't even fighting really, more doing
security and training. Hell if you think about it the Sadr people
should
be glad that they are there. The more we train Iraqis to take over
police
and security forces, the sooner we can come home.
People come to this country to find freedom. He went to Iraq to bring
it.
More people come here to find freedom, and then want to change the
society
to fit with what they left. This is insane. Why are we successful, and
mainly free? Because of how we live, and the things we believe. I have
no
patience for people from other countries that come here and then want to
change things, make it more socialist, force their morality down our
throats.
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Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marwan Saidi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:37 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Nice people....
Actually, you can't use the concern of taking fire. The contractors in
Iraq knew and accepted that as a risk before going in. You could make
the argument that the Palestinians knew about things that they do not
like here, it's a matter of degrees.
-----Original Message-----
From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:25 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Nice people....
But are the civilian contractors in Iraq really comparable to the
Palestinians on the show? Are the Palestinians on the show working for a
Palestinian company in America? (I don't know as I haven't seen the show
in question)
The contractors in Iraq AFAIK, didn't bring their wives/husbands and
families. And while you might (and did) say both are motivated by the
money, it is highly unlikely that the Palestinians going to work in
America have to worry about taking fire from the local populace during
the ol'commute.
Apples and oranges?
will
Marwan Saidi wrote:
> Um, I am sure that the thousands of Americans in Iraq (civilian
> security, development, etc) have exactly NO plans to STAY there. They
> are making their money while they can, then bolting. I am also pretty
> sure that they are not too keen on their "country" right now either.
>
> I can understand missing culture, missing the homeland, but I don;t
> agree with coming over with every intention of leaving when they've
made
> some money. They don't deserve to be here (as there are people who
want
> to come here and STAY who couldn't come because the spot was filled by
a
> short timer.)
>
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