You could learn Flex. Sounds like something that would fit your needs. The price tag is a little high, but if you're picky about the things you want, I guess you have to be ready to pay that amount.
John -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Blackstone to provide built-in "Flash Remoting" type capabilities? I'm still developing...pretty much routine stuff. But I've always been really interested in developing Rich Internet Applications, however, I hate working in Flash... It's not that I don't have experience in similar fields...I do 3-D animation, video editing, graphic design, all the time...but I have always thought Flash was too time-consuming for developing "pretty" animation. Then along came Flash Remoting and RIA's...that caught my attention. But not only did I have to develop in Flash, I had to learn an entirely new language...ActionScript... I've just been waiting for a simpler solution to RIA development to appear and was hoping that the "Gateways" and "Flash Forms" being discussed had something to do with remoting. At this point, I don't see any reason to use "Flash Forms" just because they look nicer, which would require a user to have Flash installed, when I can make "pretty" forms using CSS... Concerning upgrading...as I said, I haven't had a strong development need to upgrade with the routine apps I build, but I was also very concerned that when CF 5 (I think it was, or perhaps MX) came out, all of a sudden all the tech talk concerned Java...I know nothing about Java or JavaScript...suddenly CF was fast getting out of my league. I downloaded and installed MX and didn't really notice much difference with the little experimentation I did. I suppose it does all the Java compiling behind the scenes, but still, it got into areas I had no knowledge or expertise in and all I saw was many problems and complications waiting to happen. Perhaps once Blackstone is able to be fully discussed, I'll see reasons to go to the trouble and expense to upgrade. There'll be a lot to learn to jump from CF 4.5.2 to Blackstone...I just hope the features (at least the ones I'd benefit from the most) are worth it. I'd like to be able to build some web-based apps with software-like functionality, without having to resort to JavaScript or ActionScript...just within Cold Fusion server and CFML capabilities... Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:06 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Blackstone to provide built-in "Flash Remoting" type > capabilities? > > > Jeff Small wrote: > >>Am I understanding MM's description of Blackstone correctly, > >>especially the new, "Rich Forms"? > >> > >>Will Blackstone provide built-in "Flash-Remoting" type capability > >>without having to actually use Flash / Flash Remoting / > ActionScript? > > NDA was not mentioned during the conference as far as I know EXCEPT > during the blackstone specific sessions.. I don't think the keynote > sessions were under NDA. > > That being said, Coldfusion already provides flash remoting > built in. I > think you're misunderstanding something. > > Blackstone will allow you to create rich flash-based web > forms without > having to know flash. However, it's just a replacement for > HTML forms.. > there's no remoting involved - at least not in the normal > sense. You > can populate a select list from a database using coldfusion > just like > you would in an HTML form. > > If I say anything else, I might start referring to stuff > that I learned > in the NDA sessions, so I'll stop there =) > > As for not having compelling reasons to upgrade from 4.5 - > you really > are missing out. There were a lot of compelling reasons to > go to CF 5.0 > - UDF's were a particularly nice feature. There were *tons* of > compelling reasons to go to CFMX - web services, flash > remoting, CFCs, > use of java objects natively, etc.. > > I mean sure, if you're not doing any coldfusion development > and you are > simply maintaining an existing application with no changes, > then staying > with CF 4.5 would be fine I guess, but if you're doing any > development > at all - you are seriously missing out. > > - Rick > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~| > Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net > http://www.cfhosting.net > > Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:183983 > Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 > Unsubscribe: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=708.628.4 > Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.2.1 - Release Date: 11/10/2004 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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