Rick, If it helps you we had a speaker at our last CFUG meeting that built a nice grid that lets you add-edit-delete records using Flash forms with a CF backend.
I asked them specifically for the add-edit-delete control because that's something all of us need for just about every site we build. We've posted the files - docs, cf files, access db and the Flash fla file all in one big zip (2 mb) on our groups website. http://www.coldfusion.org/downloads/MMCFUG_FlashWebService.zip Think of it as a building block or departure point for your efforts. Combine it with Ben's two selects related program that was in CFDJ and you can really do quite a bit. Rick Mason On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:11:17 -0500, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Rick... > > I do always want to improve my programming ability, but not so > much for the improvement itself, but to provide a better product for > the end user. > > As a sole proprietor of a small business, I have plenty to do to keep > money coming in...including selling websites, developing websites, etc. > Not to mention the photography and videography I continue to do > as I did even before I jumped into web design / programming. > > My issues are more practical. Better programming skills do lead > to better apps...I build much better apps now in 4.5 than I did when > I started with 4.5. > > I know many programmers are salaried employees of companies who > know from where and how much their next check will be and can afford > time to delve into the intricacies of CF. I've got barely enough time to > keep up with the work I have now in CF, much less spending a lot of time > working out new programming techniques. > > I would love to have the time, but it's just a practical matter of > priorities, > not to mention whether or not an upgrade provides any improvement > in my ability to SELL apps, not just design them. (Speed of development > doesn't come into play much here when I'm selling apps / sites that don't > require new programming. > > I am intrigued by the "screen-based" RIA development approach in > Flash MX Pro 2004...that would provide a more "software-like", "page > refresh-not required" experience for customers who are used to using > standard software for tasks. I want to convince them to use web-based > apps instead. > > The bottom line for me is...I want to invest time and money into > new functionality and programming capabilities AND end user experience. > It's the end user experience mostly that brings in the money... > > > > Rick > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:57 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Blackstone to provide built-in "Flash Remoting" type > > capabilities? > > > > > > Rick Faircloth wrote: > > > > > > Let me ask you...what feature in all the versions after 4.5 has > > > really changed the product that you create? Not *how* you > > create it, > > > but what the client actually uses? > > > > Since most everything in coldfusion generates plain ol' HTML > > you're not > > going to see a lot of stuff that changes the end user experience. > > > > The features of the programming language that drives that > > HTML are why a > > programmer upgrades. > > > > For example, user defined functions were a valuable increase in > > PROGRAMMING functionality to me, that the end-user didn't > > see a bit of. > > But it made my programming a lot easier to say something > > like <cfif > > isvalidemail(form.email)> versus running it through a custom > > tag. And > > CFC development makes the programs I write easier to > > maintain and easier > > to write. > > > > > RIA's are a radical change > > > from the norm, but too much of a jump to have to use > > Flash, ActionScript, > > > etc. (In other words, a whole new paradigm of development) > > > > Well, if you had stayed current, it wouldn't be a huge > > increase... CFC > > development in CFMX was really an extension of the UDF functionality > > available in CF5.0 (with a lot more features)... web > > services and flash > > remoting both access CFCs (assuming you're using coldfusion to power > > your RIA). > > > > And my users LOVE the flash apps I've developed. They > > aren't fancy, but > > they are a LOT faster and easier to use than the previous HTML-based > > versions of the same applications. And they're a LOT easier > > to maintain. > > > > > I see all the talk about CFC's and have some idea of what they are, > > > but they're still just means to the same end...right? > > > > They are a means to becoming a BETTER developer, to writing more > > maintainable, more re-usable code, and basically being more > > productive > > in what you do on a daily basis. > > > > > has revolutionized your end product and not just your > > development process? > > > > I guess if you're not interested in expanding your > > programming skills, > > developing better applications, and working faster, then there's no > > reason to upgrade at all. > > > > I'll admit, I simply don't understand your point of view. I can't > > fathom someone not being interested in features that make > > their job easier. > > > > - Rick > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~| > > Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net > > http://www.cfhosting.net > > > > Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:184106 > > Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 > > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 > > Unsubscribe: > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=708.628.4 > > > > Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.2.1 - Release Date: 11/10/2004 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.2.1 - Release Date: 11/10/2004 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:184151 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54