Any stats on how many "one-man" or "two-man" shops, etc, are using CF?
I'd like to know the breakdown... Rick -----Original Message----- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? It does that's for sure, but it's still the largest site, I'm just saying that the guys claim sounded weak. Also, I'm sorry but these "one man shop" guys that are out there doing web sites and are complaining about their cost, well to be honest, I don't think they are the target CF audience really anymore. CF is being used all over as a middleware or front end layer in large scale enterprise applications around the world. Even if they stopped selling CF today there would be legacy work for decades to come, just like with COBOL and assembly and Pascal and all the other crap from the 80s that is still here and slowly being replaced. All I am saying, the sky isn't falling people. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:10 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? > > > "I thought that Myspace has been about the largest web application in the > world for the last couple of years." > > Which needs a serious overhaul. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phillip Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:30 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? > > > > > > Steve, > > > > Let me start by saying I have been with CF since 1996. > > > > I've recently learned .NET via C# as well. The resemblance of C# > > to Java is > > remarkable which made the learning curve much faster for me. > > However, I must > > agree with you and also add that ASP.NET 2.0 is faster / requires less > > hardware to host the same ap. It has built in enterprise session > > capability > > that allows your SQL database to track your session state and much more. > > > > After about 6 months of learning / using .NET, I don't see myself using > > ColdFusion as a recommended middleware for large scale sites or > > clients that > > are on a budget. The company that I work for HAD the highest traffic > > ColdFusion site on the planet. > > > > Here is a situation similar to mine: > > http://members.microsoft.com/CustomerEvidence/Common/FileOpen.aspx > > ?FileName= > > 10625_ComputerJobs_bizversion_300k.wvx > > > > The thing that I don't agree with that CJ.com said was about > the number of > > developers it took to maintain the sites pre / post conversion. > They must > > have had some code org. issues, because that has been the same for us. > > > > Unfortunately, I can see the writing on the wall for CF unless > > Adobe adopts > > a DRAMATIC pricing reduction strategy. Plain and simply put, > with .NET and > > Mono in the market, CF can no longer increase market share whilst > > continuing > > to maintain / increase their pricing. They're not the only game > > in town and > > they need to start acting like it. > > > > I pains me to write this publicly about CF. So please no > flames. I hate it > > just as much as the next CF'er. However, I am relieved that I > have finally > > learned .NET because the .NET to CF job ratio is about 100:1 at least. > > Holding on exclusively to a versus mentality will only hurt > > yourself in the > > end. > > > > > > > > --Phil > > > > ===========> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:19 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? > > > > I use ASP.NET quite a bit, and while I'd still give CF a slight edge in > > development speed, the gap has closed tremendously since the days of > > original ASP. Now that ASP.NET has a top-notch visual > designer, there are > > times when coding an ASP.NET application can be even faster than > > CF - given > > that the programmers knowledge of both is equal. > > > > Steve Brownlee > > http://www.fusioncube.net/ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:57 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? > > > > > > Is the argument that development in CF is quicker then in .NET still > > > valid - when comparing latest to latest - anyone expert on say Asp.Net > > > ... I just know VB myself, > > > > > > TK > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: > 9/22/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254788 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
