That's a pretty common thread with outsourcing to other countries and has spearheaded the move back to using US developers in many cases. Even folks who speak English just fine run into "cultural" differences in concepts that cause communication issues. It has nothing to do with their ability to program, they just don't understand American culture and we just don't get their culture.
Eric /*-----Original Message----- /*From: Qing Xia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:27 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: Re: CF vs .Net or PHP - need arguement help /* /*The company which I used to work for (it has a very large and very complex /*CF application written to manage HR and disability data for Fortune 500 /*companies) outsourced to India. It was not nearly as successful as one /*would have hoped. The people looked good on paper (many with MS in /*Computer /*Science) but their sense of quality is a little bit different from what is /*expected here. It is also extremely difficult communicating with them, /*even /*despite the time difference. In the end, we spent more time (both theirs /*and experienced staff here) helping them finish projects. Many projects /*were overdue and over budget. This company we outsourced to is a well /*known /*and well respected company as well. /* /* /*On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] /[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: /* /*> They're rebranding and reorganizing from scratch. It's driven by the /*> Marketing /*> folks and they want my feedback on what we should use, but the angencies /*> talk /*> about that there's more, less expensive developers out there with these /*> other /*> technologies. They're just trying to sell what their staff knows so /*they /*> can /*> land the account. I need a list of reputable agencies that use CF and /*not /*> just /*> a CF development house. /*> /*> >Usually companies don't just spend money for the heck of it. What is /*it /*> >they are trying to do by re-writing the site from scratch? Do they /*> >perceive it as slow or outdated, or are they looking for more features /*> >of some kind? /*> > /*> >~Brad /*> > /*> >Our company, a large nationwide organization is creating an RFP to redo /*> >our entire site /*> >from scratch for agnecies to review. The marketing folks are asking /*the /*> >agencies to /*> >recommend a application platform as a part of the RFP. I know most /*> >agencies use /*> >..net or php, but that will be for their advantage and not our existing /*> >CF staff. /*> > /*> >I need some guidance from someone that's been down this road before. I /*> >don't want us /*> >to switch technologies just beacuse it's what the agencies use. Why /*> >aren't there more /*> >agencies using CF? /*> > /*> >D /*> /*> /* /* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308537 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
