>>Bah I say stand up and be proud ColdFusion is a great platform, CFML is a
great language

Adam, You ROCK!!

BEST Regards,
Gerald the PROUD CFer

PS Gawd do I love CF.  He more I learn the more I love it.


On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > They're rebranding and reorganizing from scratch. It's driven by the
> > Marketing
> > folks and they want my feedback on what we should use, but the angencies
> > talk
> > about that there's more, less expensive developers out there with these
> > other
> > technologies.  They're just trying to sell what their staff knows so they
> > can
> > land the account.  I need a list of reputable agencies that use CF and
> not
> > just
> > a CF development house.
> >
> >
> Our company went through a new CIO & CTO, both were very skeptical of
> ColdFusion coming in. After working with them showing some of the apps and
> the time it took to produce they began to see the value. It also helps that
> hey respect me as an individual and see me as technology fan not just a
> ColdFusion bigot. Regardless, I clearly explained and went through the real
> cost savings the came from what ColdFusion offered us. I did not focus on
> CFML or the general CF faster RAD etc talk. I focused on real world
> examples
> of how we leveraged ColdFusion internally to save money or develope more
> application in paralell. I focused in on exact platform features we didn't
> need to build and maintain ourselves like JMS integrations, file
> manipulation, charting and webservices. As a side note since I love pimpin
> the OS side of CFML if you are worried about cost and not utilizing the
> platform, checking out alternative CFML engines like Open BlueDragon or
> Railo might be an option.
>
> As for reputable agencies, Kroger and Hasbro come to mind as well as GE and
> Bank of America (though if I recall they really don't do greenfield
> development with CFML). Not to mention, seemingly, every branch of the
> government; you could look through all the different gov't agencies that
> use
> ColdFusion as well. Ping me off list if you want to talk more about what
> I've done in Kroger to help CF flurish, heck I'd even be happy to take some
> personal time and talk with executives there if they want to talk to other
> companies using CFML. Really at the end of the day in simple terms I
> evangilised,  spoke up and showed I was proud of platform I use and I did
> so
> confidently without hesitation. So many times I see folks so proud to be a
> CF developer but then around others like Java devs or CIO types they cower
> in a corner overshadowed by thier "superiors." Bah I say stand up and be
> proud ColdFusion is a great platform, CFML is a great language . Oh and if
> all else fails Kroger is hiring send me a resume (seriosuly anyone
> interested send me a resume, Mid-Senior preferably) ;)
>
> Adam!
>
>
> 

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