Well that was my only idea... so you are on your own now :)
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 5:39 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: why is cf_builder so expensive? Mark, Unlike most people I have the heap status constantly displayed in my bottom right corner, and it isn't anything to do with that. You will have to trust me on that. It never reaches any more than 1/2 of what the JVM is setup for. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] > Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2011 10:21 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: why is cf_builder so expensive? > > > What heap size are you running? Sounds like your JVM is resource > constrained (drawing issues, line debugger etc). Eclipse has to be tuned like > any other java app if you are using it heavily. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:46 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: why is cf_builder so expensive? > > > Ok let me clear one thing up, I never said it was a bad product. In fact my > words where I don't think it is a great product, but from what I am hearing > version 3 will be a must have for any developer. Now whether I think it is > worth the price, is indeed my opinion. > > As for the bugs, I don't have the bug numbers on hand but here is a snippet > of some of the ones that I endure on a daily basis. > > 1) When opening the IDE there are times when the colour syntax, and > everything else that is related to ColdFusion just won't work. Granted this > is not very often, but it is often enough to be annoying. > 2) The outline feature never remembers whether it is collapsed or not, and > it should also begin in the collapsed so people can drill in rather than > drill out. > 3) For no reason what so ever the heap will spike to the maximum, and hang > the IDE. This can cause the IDE to be non responsive for upto 2-3 mins, > before it will eventually come back as not responding. > 4) When trying to stop a server in the servers view, the ColdFusion will > eventually report stopped. When you go and restart it at a later stage, it > errors saying that it is already running. Yet the IDE reports this as > stopped, this is more notable on remote servers than local, but I have seen > it on local servers as well. > 5) When closing a lot of windows (Code files) by either using the Mylyn > plugin, or by close all. For every single file closed there will be an error > that will pop up saying something like, the file is not in the webroot or > there is no server associated with the file so it is not able to be viewed. > This is more noticeable when using Mylyn to activate/deactivate tasks, but > as it also happens when not using Mylyn just not as often. > 6) I can be scrolling through a large file and I mean around large, and the > editor will just stop actually scrolling. To the point that the letters are > changing, but they're not disappearing. Eventually you will get a totally > black screen from the characters not updating correctly, the gutter with the > line numbers also will not update when scrolling either. > 7) The undo feature if you make a 1 to 5 letter change, and try to do an udo > then you find that it tries to do an undo somewhere else in the file and you > have to try to do an undo about 10-20 times before it catches upto your > actual changes. This appears to be that it is trying to undo the syntax > stuff, I could be wrong but it is buggy as hell when undoing code. > 8) If you have a project on a UNC path, and close the IDE and re-open it. > Sometimes it thinks that the path is not there and closes the project, even > though you can go to the IDE file view and see the UNC path with no > problems, and this also happens for mapped drives as well. If you try to > open the project an error will occur, the only work around to this is that > you have to go to the IDE's file view and browse into a directory then open > the project. > 9) When running the line debugger, each and every time you hit a break > point > the IDE gets slower and slower to fire the breakpoint. > 10) When using the line debugger, and you are stepping through the lines of > code. There are times when the Function Variable, just disappears. So there > is no way to see what variables have been defined for a function. > 11)When using the line debugger, there are times when stepping through > large > lines of code in a function it will just exit. Especially when in a loop and > there is a cffile in that loop. > 12) When trying to set a break point to use the line debugger, you will get > told that this line ins unreachable, even when you look at the code it > clearly is reachable. > 13) After awhile the line debugger will just stop firing and you are forced > to close the IDE, and restart it as well as stop and restart the ColdFusion > server. > 14) When typing some code, I can stop and hit the up arrow key before the > color of the code is complete. And then I can get the IDE to have half blue > lines across the screen for every line I scroll too. > 15) Closing of tags is flaky, even with all the right settings if I type > <cfoutput> sometimes I get the closing tag and sometimes I don't > 16) Sometimes the icon to open the log files from the locally running > server, will report that the server does not provide logs or is not local > and other times it just works fine. > > I could go on with a lot more than this, but as these are the ones that I do > see more reguallry than any other bug. A lot of these bugs are productivity > killers, and others are well I'll just close the file and re-open it, to > downright annoying. > > Regards, > Andrew Scott > http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2011 3:13 PM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: why is cf_builder so expensive? > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Andrew Scott > > <andr...@andyscott.id.au> wrote: > > > > > > Mark, I think I made my stance very clear in a previous thread. I did > > > say that the bugs will be fixed in the next release, and I feel that > > > this is wrong and I might be a minority on that, > > > > Might be a minority on that? That's funny... > > > > I have been using CF Builder for at least as long as you have. I use it > every day > > and have yet to encounter any bugs that would make me think its not > worth > > the price. > > > > I am curious, what bug is it, that it seems only you have encountered, > that > > makes CFB a bad piece of software, and, according to you, 'will never be > > fixed'? > > > > You surely know the bug number, so, why not share so we can go take a > look > > for ourselves. > > > > > > -- > > Scott Stroz > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~| > Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! > http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- > Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion > Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- > talk/message.cfm/messageid:341508 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- > talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
