Again, not trying to pick a fight (or let me put it more plainly: please
don't jump on me about this Scott), but I do want to offer another
clarification. Scott writes, "you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the boys from the 
US at
WebDU, put together your draft plan on how to change the world, one CF step
at a time and approach them".

 

In case it helps anyone seeking to approach the team at WebDU, first know
that Tim is no longer on the CF team, having moved to Flex. Maybe, indeed
Scott knew that, but he mentioned it in the context of CF, so I'm offering
this to help, not to chide. Tim was indeed the CF product manager for a few
years, but that he left that role in 2006 and Jason Delmore took it. Tim
then returned later that year to become CF Product Marketing manager, but he
left last year for the Flex team, and Kristen Schofield took his role, which
also means it's no longer just "the boys". :-) 

 

/charlie

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:09 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD
from them too?

 

RE: Kay;s comment - compete with .NET (which has MS behind it, with far more
resources than Adobe) 

 

Actually a lot of the compete concern doesn't derive from Microsoft itself,
your actual real competitors are the partners / customers of .NET
technology. Microsoft market .NET in a plethora of ways, we specifically
don't actively compete with Coldfusion all that much. In that in the end,
folks here also are customers of ours whom buy SQL, Windows Servers etc and
I state this as it's easy to demonise us as the bad guys, when in fact we
have investment in the success and failures of Coldfusion (both obviously).
We've also recently via Expression Web opened our tool(s) offering to
support PHP, so in the end it's not a clear cut and dry - us or them,
mentality.

 

Like I stated, you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the boys from the US at WebDU, put
together your draft plan on how to change the world, one CF step at a time
and approach them. Tim is by far the most approachable Adobe Staffer I know,
and if you calmly state your case(s) on how you could change the "perception
of community decomposition" with an action plan, I'd wager he'd look into
ways of supporting it.

 

I wouldn't recommend doing this alone, you will fail. 


Scott.


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