Again, not trying to pick a fight (or let me put it more plainly: please don't jump on me about this Scott), but I do want to offer another clarification. Scott writes, "you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the boys from the US at WebDU, put together your draft plan on how to change the world, one CF step at a time and approach them".
In case it helps anyone seeking to approach the team at WebDU, first know that Tim is no longer on the CF team, having moved to Flex. Maybe, indeed Scott knew that, but he mentioned it in the context of CF, so I'm offering this to help, not to chide. Tim was indeed the CF product manager for a few years, but that he left that role in 2006 and Jason Delmore took it. Tim then returned later that year to become CF Product Marketing manager, but he left last year for the Flex team, and Kristen Schofield took his role, which also means it's no longer just "the boys". :-) /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:09 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? RE: Kay;s comment - compete with .NET (which has MS behind it, with far more resources than Adobe) Actually a lot of the compete concern doesn't derive from Microsoft itself, your actual real competitors are the partners / customers of .NET technology. Microsoft market .NET in a plethora of ways, we specifically don't actively compete with Coldfusion all that much. In that in the end, folks here also are customers of ours whom buy SQL, Windows Servers etc and I state this as it's easy to demonise us as the bad guys, when in fact we have investment in the success and failures of Coldfusion (both obviously). We've also recently via Expression Web opened our tool(s) offering to support PHP, so in the end it's not a clear cut and dry - us or them, mentality. Like I stated, you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the boys from the US at WebDU, put together your draft plan on how to change the world, one CF step at a time and approach them. Tim is by far the most approachable Adobe Staffer I know, and if you calmly state your case(s) on how you could change the "perception of community decomposition" with an action plan, I'd wager he'd look into ways of supporting it. I wouldn't recommend doing this alone, you will fail. Scott. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---