Anyway, allow me to retort: Correct, Firstly, Tim is arriving NOT Jason/Kristen. Secondly most folks have an EXISTING relationship with Tim via previous WebDU's etc. You could furthermore use others to champion that cause, but Tim does come to mind given the prev experience in the role and the intent of such meeting.
Just because a person moves around Product Teams doesn't mean he/show doesn't know the lay of the land :). Again Charlie, knock it off. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:07 AM, charlie arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, not trying to pick a fight (or let me put it more plainly: please > don't jump on me about this Scott), but I do want to offer another > clarification. Scott writes, "you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the boys from > the US > at WebDU, put together your draft plan on how to change the world, one CF > step at a time and approach them". > > > > In case it helps anyone seeking to approach the team at WebDU, first know > that Tim is no longer on the CF team, having moved to Flex. Maybe, indeed > Scott knew that, but he mentioned it in the context of CF, so I'm offering > this to help, not to chide. Tim was indeed the CF product manager for a few > years, but that he left that role in 2006 and Jason Delmore took it. Tim > then returned later that year to become CF Product Marketing manager, but he > left last year for the Flex team, and Kristen Schofield took his role, which > also means it's no longer just "the boys". :-) > > > > /charlie > > > > *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2008 9:09 AM > *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not > FUD from them too? > > > > *RE: Kay;s comment - compete with .NET (which has MS behind it, with far > more resources than Adobe) * > > > > Actually a lot of the compete concern doesn't derive from Microsoft > itself, your actual real competitors are the partners / customers of .NET > technology. Microsoft market .NET in a plethora of ways, we specifically > don't actively compete with Coldfusion all that much. In that in the end, > folks here also are customers of ours whom buy SQL, Windows Servers etc and > I state this as it's easy to demonise us as the bad guys, when in fact we > have investment in the success and failures of Coldfusion (both obviously). > We've also recently via Expression Web opened our tool(s) offering to > support PHP, so in the end it's not a clear cut and dry - us or them, > mentality. > > > > Like I stated, you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the boys from the US at WebDU, > put > together your draft plan on how to change the world, one CF step at a time > and approach them. Tim is by far the most approachable Adobe Staffer I know, > and if you calmly state your case(s) on how you could change the "perception > of community decomposition" with an action plan, I'd wager he'd look into > ways of supporting it. > > > > I wouldn't recommend doing this alone, you will fail. > > > Scott. > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
