As i mentioned in an earlier post, most of the time is comes down to an infrastructure cost issue as running servers in Australia is quite expensive
_____ From: Matt Bourke [mailto:m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2010 8:08 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] cost of hosting, CF vs others (was JB-HI Moving to dotnet) Suggest openBD or Railo, use the OSS buzzword, you don't need to protect Adobe they're not going to protect you, 95% of all cfml apps I've worked on don't need CF server, the only real diff is openBD is a lot more stable and a lot less resource intensive then CF and Railo is a lot! faster Cost isn't an issue with scaling, look at cfeclipse vs visual studio And Linux+ railo/openBD vs windows server Does your app need Adobe or CFML? Sent from my iPhone On 1 Jun 2010, at 22:49, "m...@ampersand.net.au" <m...@ampersand.net.au> wrote: I find this sometimes too - but mostly with bigger clients who want to host in-house - they need to buy ColdFusion outright, install it, maintain it etc. and that is a bigger cost than just putting another Windows Server box together (or more likely just turning IIS on on a box they already have). On 2/06/2010 7:28 AM, charlie arehart wrote: So Chad, am I reading you right? That you moved to asp/.net over CF because of "the cost of hosting"? I ask this sincerely, because we often hear the concern that "CF costs" and others are free, but in nearly every hosting solution I've seen that offers PHP, .NET, JSP, etc., the hosting is not free. So how has the software being free mattered, really? And to be clear, I've seen some hosts who offered about the same plans (for the others, and CF) at the same price. My point, then, is that we ought to remember (and can only hope others will when considering this) that just because "CF costs", it doesn't have to translate to costing more for a given developer. And we all know that the Developer edition is free, though again there are still surprisingly many who don't know that. No, none of this info is going to change the tilt of the earth, nor reclaim market share for CF in the aggregate. But it seems rarely to brought up in these sort of hand-wringing sessions. Chad's note seemed a chance to make the point. And even if he may write back to say I didn't quite read him right, I'd say the point still stands for others interested in the topic. /charlie From: <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com> cfaussie@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com> mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chad Renando Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:33 PM To: <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com> cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: JB-HI Moving to dotnet Not sure on the value of my contribution or if at this stage we can say anything that will be anything that has not been said already. >From someone who started in a CF shop, did the whole Spectra thing, worked through the studio moving to .NET, and then moved into a .NET-centric studio after, for me the ongoing cost of hosting was a deal breaker. The CF argument against .asp used to be that it did things out of the box that were painful in .asp (database connections, emailing), but not so sure that is as solid anymore. Chad who has been trying to go mainstream himself, but ended up as a bit of a creek or tributary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com> cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <mailto:cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at <http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
