On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 17:10 +1200, David McNab wrote: > On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 12:03 +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:02:06 +0200, Raffaella Traniello > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> From the Manual: > > > "Cinelerra is not intended for consumers. [...] > > > > I consider that a bug, and I believe that some of the frustration > > that brought Cinelerra-CV into existance came from that statement.
I tend to agree. I'm not a pro, I'm just a guy who wants to put together some clips and stuff for YouTube. My first impression was that "not intended for consumers" was a nice way of saying "bug-ridden segfaulting bucket-o-bytes". Cinelerra is hard to grasp intuitively first off (not intended as a slight), but combined with the whole segfaulting stuff, people are just going to say "WTF" and move on to something else. I don't mean to be harsh or poo-poo the excellent work that's been put into Cinelerra (I thank the developers for so kindly offering their labours to the comnunity) - but that's the way most people are going to see it. > I started out as a 'consumer' a couple of weeks ago as I was looking for > a Linux video editor. I, too, am very new to it, and jsut beginning to "get" it. I just discovered subtitling - no more separate programs for me in future. ;) A thought: when you load a file in with iMovie, it actually "imports" it - converting it into its own format (quicktime, or whatever). Now, that got me to thinking - if Cinelerra followed the same idea, that might be quite good. It could have its own format. That format would be woefully inefficient (hopefully not outrageously inefficient) as a storage medium, but it would be excellent for what Cinelerra needs. You would then have a level of separation between "foreign file formats" and internal respresentation. You are then paving the way for being able to test formats in isolation. And ... not that I know what I'm talking about ... instead of using threads, Cinelerra could start a process that does the conversion. If the user gets bored half way through, he clicks the button and the process gets killed. _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra