Lenita,
My concern with your post was your glaring suggestion that all men in the
networking world are sexist (i.e. GOD FORBID that woman actually knows more
than they do, etc...). If that's truly been your experience then that's
indeed unfortunate and you have every right to share it and denounce it.
Nor would I ask you to soften it. However, making blanket generalizations
abount men in the networking field is irresponsible. You speak as if your
experience reflects the way things are all over, and that's not the case.
Perhaps I misunderstood...Good luck to you.
Roger
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From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Your reaction was exactly what I expected.....you can't, unfortunately,
argue with real experience....
Would you at all be interested in hearing the truth of what a woman's
experience has been? Or would you rather just ignore it and pretend such
behaviour does not exist?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 10:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Lenita,
I recommend you seek employment elsewhere and/or counseling...
In my office of 12 engineers, 4 are women. I freely admit that in many
respects, their networking/technical prowess exceeds my own and I'm not
offended by that at all. I learn from them and they learn from me. They
are good at what they do and well respected.
R Gore
-----Original Message-----
From: Lenita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 9:23 AM
To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
Let me speak to this from a woman's point of view. Being a trailblazer
isn't a lot of fun, trust me. You are exactly right, this is a HEAVILY
male-dominated field, and the best way to think of it as if the field were
like white-collar construction; lots of male macho behaviour. Some of the
crap I've heard and been exposed to in this field would automatically get
people fired in other disciplines, but because they're just boyz, well, they
were just kidding.....
The level of sexual comments can be quite high - much higher than any other
job I've been in......I mean I've heard some really offensive stuff coming
out of some male techs some times......
Often assertive women will get nailed (ie - fired, or tagged as being a dyke
for being too assertive.....etc - you know the drill, I'm betting). If
you're beautiful, 5'2" and submissive, that's perfect for a lot of these
guys - but what that do for you in your career? The requirement for this
job, I believe, is for a secure, professional and assertive person (notice I
did not mention gender in my description).
Yes, to some degree some men like diversity, but GOD FORBID that woman
actually knows more than they do.........
But having said all that, is it a good field for women? YES! There's NO
reason we can't do the work, and this field, as you already have noted, is
DESPARATE for female presence.......it's going to happen sooner or later,
and the pay is decent. You're on the right track. PLEASE keep
going..........
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ms. Maria
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco for Woman?
Hello my friends,
I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA, already
have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While going for interviews, I sometime
feel that this Routing and Swtiching environment is strictly man dominated.
I have never seen a woman interviewing me for WAN job. Funny thing is that
I am going to one institute from last couple of months and I am only one
girl taking CCNP classes with 25+ men in my class. Sometimes, I sit back and
think that if I have chosen a wrong profession?? Any advice from people who
are already working in this field will be helpful. Is there any sex
discrimination going on for these jobs?
By the way, I am in USA this time.
Thanks for the consideration!
Maria
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