Well, like my sister always says, "Dont be bitter, be better..."
[=`)
>From: "Lenita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Lenita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Ms. Maria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:29:40 -0700
>
>Chuck, I'm glad you appreciate women, that's great! Good for you!
>
>My points, however, I think are still valid: this is an OVERWHELMINGLY
>male
>field and she should be aware that it is NOT by accident that there is a
>lack of women in the field.
>
>Should that stop Maria? No, of course not. It used to be that there no
>women Doctors, no female Attorneys, etc. So she can overcome and succeed.
>But she asked the question, and I'm a woman in this field and will speak to
>the TRUTH of what I said.
>
>And, I never said there weren't great, professional men in this field.
>There are, and those men are in the majority, no question.
>
>However, there are also very unprofessional men in this field, unlike other
>fields of work, who don't get disciplined for their remarks and behaviour
>because of their perceived technical skills.
>
>This is a reality that Maria needs to deal with; she should not let it
>stop
>her, she just needs to recognize that the rules are different for technical
>males versus technical females.
>
>Mileage may indeed vary, but real life is real life.......
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 9:56 AM
>To: Lenita; Ms. Maria
>Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
>
>
>I for one am grateful for the good advice and inspiration I have received
>from a number of people on and off this list. More than a couple of those
>folks are women. I owe Pam Forsythe and Clare Gough big time. I consider
>Priscilla Oppenheimer a great lady in every sense of the term. I've read
>just a bit of Laura Chappell, but can she ever write!
>
>I think that the "boys" are just that. I think you will also find that the
>"men" out there really appreciate the presence of a qualified woman. Like
>everything else, your mileage may vary.
>
>Best wishes in your studies.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>Lenita
>Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 9:23 AM
>To: Ms. Maria; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Cisco for Woman?
>
>Let me speak to this from a woman's point of view. Being a trailblazer
>isn't a lot of fun, trust me. You are exactly right, this is a HEAVILY
>male-dominated field, and the best way to think of it as if the field were
>like white-collar construction; lots of male macho behaviour. Some of the
>crap I've heard and been exposed to in this field would automatically get
>people fired in other disciplines, but because they're just boyz, well,
>they
>were just kidding.....
>The level of sexual comments can be quite high - much higher than any other
>job I've been in......I mean I've heard some really offensive stuff coming
>out of some male techs some times......
>
>Often assertive women will get nailed (ie - fired, or tagged as being a
>dyke
>for being too assertive.....etc - you know the drill, I'm betting). If
>you're beautiful, 5'2" and submissive, that's perfect for a lot of these
>guys - but what that do for you in your career? The requirement for this
>job, I believe, is for a secure, professional and assertive person (notice
>I
>did not mention gender in my description).
>
>Yes, to some degree some men like diversity, but GOD FORBID that woman
>actually knows more than they do.........
>
>But having said all that, is it a good field for women? YES! There's NO
>reason we can't do the work, and this field, as you already have noted, is
>DESPARATE for female presence.......it's going to happen sooner or later,
>and the pay is decent. You're on the right track. PLEASE keep
>going..........
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Ms. Maria
>Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:15 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Cisco for Woman?
>
>
>Hello my friends,
>
>I have been looking for a job in Cisco field. I have earned CCNA, already
>have MCSE, and doing my CCNP now. While going for interviews, I sometime
>feel that this Routing and Swtiching environment is strictly man dominated.
>I have never seen a woman interviewing me for WAN job. Funny thing is that
>I am going to one institute from last couple of months and I am only one
>girl taking CCNP classes with 25+ men in my class. Sometimes, I sit back
>and
>think that if I have chosen a wrong profession?? Any advice from people
>who
>are already working in this field will be helpful. Is there any sex
>discrimination going on for these jobs?
>By the way, I am in USA this time.
>
>Thanks for the consideration!
>
>Maria
>
>
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