Thanks for sending the legal wording that came with the Syngress book and
CD. It sounds like they covered themselves. They do not allow someone to
post the book on a server where multiple people could read it at once.
In answer to your question, no, the poster has not added comments, though
he did make the self tests more interactive. Comments wouldn't matter
anyway. It's still illegal and unethical to post huge chunks of someone
else's work without permission or even any acknowledgement.
You could have sent your response to the list!? ;-) People need to be
educated. I couldn't believe the person who thought it was the same as
linking to someone else's page!?!
OK, no more messages on this topic. Let's get back to cisco questions!
Priscilla
>From: "Dick Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Very good web site for CCNA
>Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:51:43 -0400
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>/
>Priscilla...
>
>Reading from the page facing the CD....
>
>Copyright Statement
> This software is protected by both United States copyright law and
>international....
>..................
>Except as noted in the contents of the CD-ROM, you must treat this software
>just like a book. However, you may copy it into a computer to be used and
>you may make archival copies of the software for the sole purpose of backing
>up the software and protecting your investment from loss. By saying, "just
>like a book," The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. ("Osborne/McGraw") means, for
>example, that this software may be used by any number of people and may be
>freely moved from one computer location to another, so long as there is no
>possibility of its being used at one location or on one computer while it is
>being used at another. Just as a book cannot be read by two different
>people in two different places at the same time, neither can the software be
>used by two different people in two different places at the same time.
>
>A thought occurred to me. Has the individual at the web site made comments
>along the way as one is reading the contents on the web site?
>
>"Just an old dog trying to learn new tricks".
>dsilva
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:00 AM
>Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA
>
>
> >Ben Lovegrove's Web site links to Amazon's site so you can buy the books.
> >Of course, that's completely different than what this other person did.
> >This other person posted the whole book online on what appears to be his
> >own personal Web site. He doesn't appear to be associated with the
> >publisher. I don't think he's one of the authors either, though that's
> >generally irrelevant. The publisher usually owns the copyright.
> >
> >The publisher, Syngress, got what they deserved possibly, since they
> >published the whole book on the included CD. But when you open that CD you
> >agree to use it for your own personal use only. (At least that's usually
> >the case. Does anyone have the book with the original CD packaging? Could
> >you tell us what it says?)
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >
> >
> >At 09:30 PM 7/24/00, William E Gragido wrote:
> >>Priscilla,
> >>
> >>On the one hand, its a definite ethical error, on the flipside(gotta play
> >>the devil's advocate here), is it any different than what thousands of
> >>technical sites do? I am not justifying it, from a legal perspective
> >>however I would like to point out that some the best sites on the internet
> >>dedicated to networking and data communications have or are doing the same
> >>thing. Take Ben Lovegrove's site, which by the way, I love! He has links
> >>to several other sites containing entire volumes of information(see the
> >>Syngress link). Is it wrong? To some perhaps, if copyright and credit
>are
> >>not giving their due, but I would be curious to see how many of who
>utilize
> >>these resources would actively campaign against them. Just a few
>thoughts!
> >>By the way, your books are great!
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:40 PM
> >> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Neelanga Udash'
> >> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I was really impressed when I first reviewed this online
> >> > material. It's so
> >> > much better than most of the crap that's out there. Then I realized
>it's
> >> > the "CCNA Cisco Certified Network Associate Study Guide" by Syngress!
>How
> >> > could someone publish this online?? It appears to be a flagrant
> >> > example of
> >> > theft.
> >> >
> >> > Priscilla
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >---------- From: Neelanga Udash Reply To: Neelanga
> >> > >Udash Sent: Monday, 24 July, 2000 7:43
> >> > >AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Very good
> >> > web site for
> >> > >CCNA
> >> > >
> >> > >Dear all,
> >> > >
> >> > >Take a look at this site. There is a whole book of CCNA material
>written
> >> > >by a CCIE,
> >> > >
> >> > ><http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htm>http://www.rkingma.com
> >> > /cisco/testhome.htm
> >> > ><http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htm>
> >> > >
> >> > >
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