You are correct. You have the right to share THAT book.
You do not have the right to reproduce the book. Copyright
laws prohibit unauthorized reproduction. Publishing the
digital copy of the book on the Web is unauthorized reproduction.
It is NOT lending.
I like Priscilla's suggestion. Let's get back to our namesake: cisco at
groupstudy,
and drop this thread. It is up to the author and the publisher to pursue
the
legal problem.
Ray Mosely, CCNA, MCSE
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
William E Gragido
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:08 PM
To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA
I could be wrong, and do correct me if thats the case, but I was under the
impression that once someone has purchased a book, that they have the right
to share that book with others provided that no monetary exchange is taking
place. If there is such an exchange then I could see how an author could
get his/her feathers in an uproar, but if there is no exchange what is the
harm? If what you are proposing was truly the case, than the disbursement
of knowledge via books(that in centuries past were hand copied), would never
had occurred. Furthermore, what you are proposing directly targets the
largest offenders this sort of breach of ethics.....libraries, schools,
colleges and universities. Not trying to start another flame war, simply
striving for more clarity. Tell me this, have you ever leant a book to
someone? Any book, doesn't have to be a technical book necessarily, just a
book. If so, I would encourage you to discipline yourself! :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 11:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA
>
>
> Ben Lovegrove's Web site links to Amazon's site so you can buy the books.
> Of course, that's completely different than what this other person did.
> This other person posted the whole book online on what appears to be his
> own personal Web site. He doesn't appear to be associated with the
> publisher. I don't think he's one of the authors either, though that's
> generally irrelevant. The publisher usually owns the copyright.
>
> The publisher, Syngress, got what they deserved possibly, since they
> published the whole book on the included CD. But when you open
> that CD you
> agree to use it for your own personal use only. (At least that's usually
> the case. Does anyone have the book with the original CD packaging? Could
> you tell us what it says?)
>
> Priscilla
>
>
>
> At 09:30 PM 7/24/00, William E Gragido wrote:
> >Priscilla,
> >
> >On the one hand, its a definite ethical error, on the flipside(gotta play
> >the devil's advocate here), is it any different than what thousands of
> >technical sites do? I am not justifying it, from a legal perspective
> >however I would like to point out that some the best sites on
> the internet
> >dedicated to networking and data communications have or are
> doing the same
> >thing. Take Ben Lovegrove's site, which by the way, I love! He
> has links
> >to several other sites containing entire volumes of information(see the
> >Syngress link). Is it wrong? To some perhaps, if copyright and
> credit are
> >not giving their due, but I would be curious to see how many of
> who utilize
> >these resources would actively campaign against them. Just a
> few thoughts!
> >By the way, your books are great!
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:40 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Neelanga Udash'
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Very good web site for CCNA
> > >
> > >
> > > I was really impressed when I first reviewed this online
> > > material. It's so
> > > much better than most of the crap that's out there. Then I
> realized it's
> > > the "CCNA Cisco Certified Network Associate Study Guide" by
> Syngress! How
> > > could someone publish this online?? It appears to be a flagrant
> > > example of
> > > theft.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >---------- From: Neelanga Udash Reply To: Neelanga
> > > >Udash Sent: Monday, 24 July, 2000 7:43
> > > >AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Very good
> > > web site for
> > > >CCNA
> > > >
> > > >Dear all,
> > > >
> > > >Take a look at this site. There is a whole book of CCNA
> material written
> > > >by a CCIE,
> > > >
> > > ><http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htm>http://www.rkingma.com
> > > /cisco/testhome.htm
> > > ><http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htm>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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