To soften this a bit, I strongly recommend the reading of Eric Greenberg's
Network Application Frameworks
Eric is another one of those guys who used to post here a lot. ( haven't
heard from him in a few months ) He and I struck up something of a rapport
when I discovered he and I shared the concern about fingerpointing in
troubleshooting exercises. For example, in his Preface, he lays out a
scenario in which "The company's sales staff has called a meeting with the
IS department to discuss the increasingly poor performance of their
worldwide sales processing application." Having been called to meetings like
this, in more than one organization, I learned very early in my career how
to take steps to determine what the real problem is, not the apparent one.
one of the reasons I find Howard's writing so interesting as well )
The point Eric makes, and one all of us needs be aware, is that there are
many reasons that network performance can be negatively effected. Cisco
places quite an emphasis on protocol behavior in its design certification
test. Probably because in the experience of Cisco, thorough understanding of
protocol behavior goes a long way toward designing good solid networks with
good performance. We see questions regularly on this group and elsewhere
asking questions, the answers to which come from understanding how NetBIOS
over TCP or certain UNIX functions operate. Let alone IP itself.
In return, my strong opinion is that folks who do not spend the time
learning how networks work, and how the different parts interact, who just
want to be router jockeys, will certainly find themselves at the lower ends
of both the pay scale and the promotion scale. I know I am truly impressed
by a number of people I have met through this list, people who have taken
the time and put in the effort to learn Unix, and Linux, and Microsoft and
Novell. Folks like these have offered a lot of good advice and good insight
to problem solving questions that appear here regularly.
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Oz
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 10:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Prerequisites
Erik,
That took about 2 minutes to find on the web and you probably needed
service pack applied ..
Thats what the hell that means and we all know you hate windows and thats
fine .
But please you cannot tell new folks to forget it .. I have worked in
huge enviroments that had lots of NT and windows and many issues would
not have been solved if my knowledge of NT was not there..
As a router dude you can get a lot of issues that can SEEM to be wan
related when in fact it can be simple desktop/server issues..
Sure there are many folks out there that know networking and unix but also
by not knowing NT windows could limit those same folks too .
Just like my limited Unix limits me .too.
And for folks just starting up NT is fine as chances are they will start
at the desktop anyhow ..
And there is not many unix desktops around these days .
And whether you like it or not Cisco is making more stuff for NT all the
time and there are some that are NT windows only ..
I don't care for any particular OS to me they all are the same.. But I
have to care because many places are multi OS environments and you need to
know a little about them all.
And I am not trying to start an OS war here just trying to give some
balance here..
The market has shifted and thats a fact and so will the workforce have to
shift in the direction of the market it's just that simple..
For someone on a limited budget NT can help them out sure they can do
Linux but right now there is not much market for entry level Linux folks.
Whereas win NT desktop there is tons of work..
And for Adedapo MTA errors usually are due to corrupted databases but I
have not played with exchange for a long time. But usally running MTACHECK
will fix it
A fatal MTA database server error was encountered. A bad list member
> >length is on object 06000046. File offset: 3134. Attribute ID: 79.
> >Referenced object 00000000 (0 => N/A). Referenced object error: 0. [DB
> >Server DISP:ROUTER 8 42] (16)
Oz
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