Oh, it's just getting fun. It's not like we are flaming anyone. We are just expressing our opinions! ;-)
I'd agree with you. No BGP for NA's. And as far as who I'd want touching my Internet facing router, it would depend on what type of business it was. If it was a small business, where all they need is a default router that is propagated, I sure as heck would think that an NA would be able to handle that. If it was a large business with say a semi-extensive private WAN with multiple entries into the Internet, I'd definitely prefer at least a NP. If it was a company with dual ISP routing that incorporated BGP, then a NP might be able to handle it, but I would definitely prefer an IE. For ISP's, anyone that would even think of touching the backbone routers I would hope would be IE level, if not certified. It's the experience that counts to me, not necessarily the cert level. Heck, I only have my CCNA so far, but I'd hazard to guess that I have more practical experience than a certain double CCIE that I know. Fred Reimer - CCNA Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338 Phone: 404-847-5177 Cell: 770-490-3071 Pager: 888-260-2050 NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] BLIMEY !!! this is getting a little heated L+G`s ..... i personally believe that when i got my CCNA if i had been asked to configure BGP (even Basic) on an internet connecting router for a small-medium sized company...i would have run away screaming... Ask yourselfs this there are three grade`s of Certifications at cisco Associate Profesisional Expert from a company manager`s point-of-view (no offence fred) Whom would you prefer be touching your internet facing router ????... yes i am aware that to most of us they don`t mean tuppence (i.e howard/pris) but the plan truth is people NOT in the know rely on the badges >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:36:57 GMT > >At 11:32 PM +0000 9/9/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > >Dom wrote: > >> > >> And one last point, No LAN is an island, why two IG(P) > >> protocols and no > >> EG(P) protocol? > >> > >> A NA should at least a some understanding of how to connect to > >> the > >> outside world - when to use BGP and when not to. > > > >Default routing. Wouldn't we all be better off if CCNAs would stay away >from > >BGP?? :-) > > > >Priscilla > >When fingerpointing in quite a number of external connectivity >problems, I have often found de fault is due to the lack of default. >Cisco hardly helps this by discriminating against static and default >routes in the CCIE lab. >**Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: >http://shop.groupstudy.com >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=75188&t=75050 -------------------------------------------------- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html

