This is surprising that this provider is recommending Netopia over Cisco.
The provider has to be using a DSLAM that is one of the more obscure ones on
the market. Cisco's CPE has reached the point to where it is compatible
with most of the larger selling DSLAMs in the business (i.e., Alcatel,
Lucent, Copper Mountain).
By the way, I agree Westel is becoming a player with their DSLAMs and CPEs
since they migrated to the Alcatel chipsets.
Hopefully by this time next year, the "self-install" programs will be
heavily utilized in the industry and some of these type of headaches will be
a memory.
Reggie Wilson
DSL Product Consultant
Verizon Online (GTE Internet)
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cisco -L post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: SDSL statement : True or False ?
> SDSL routers/bridges only work with the DSLAM that is advertised. The line
> coding is slightly different from each other.
>
> Is there a specific requirement that Cisco provides that Netopia doesn't?
> There isn't much to configuring Netopia Routers. They are fairly easy.
>
> The most common DSLAM's that I have seen are Westel, Copper Mountain and
> Nokia. The xDSL modem usually supports only of of these DSLAMs.
> In my experience anyway....
>
> YMMV
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> > In my experience with two different DSL providers ( Northpoint and
Covad, if
> > you must know ) On the provider side they test for compatibility, ease
of
> > use, setup etc. they want their installers to be able to walk into your
> > home, pop in the equipment, spend five minutes setting it up and
testing,
> > and then be on their way. Oh yeah, they want to make a buck on this
stuff
> > without having their customers balk at high cost of equipment. Their QA
> > people have looked at the market, done their testing, negotiated their
> > pricing, and they are done with it.
> >
> > You can put in your own stuff and chances are it will work. But if there
are
> > any problems, you know what happens.
> >
> > It is best go with what the carrier says. If you have other issues, such
as
> > firewall or NAT, you can always install another device into the mix.
> >
> > ISP-----DSLRouter-----CiscoRouter------insideNetwork
> >
> > And use the IOS firewall feature set. Or some other combination.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Ole
> > Drews Jensen
> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:29 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: SDSL statement : True or False ?
> >
> > I would like to convert our branch offices from ISDN connections to
SDSL,
> > but the carrier that I would like to use want's me to use Netopia
routers
> > instead of Cisco. When I told them that I would like to use Cisco to
> > standalize our equipment and since I know how to operate Cisco routers,
I
> > got this message:
> >
> > =/=
> > We checked with our dsl partner and unfortunately their Copper Mountain
> > DSLAMS do not work with Cisco routers for dsl service. We have plenty of
> > customers with Cisco routers for their frame, Internet, etc. along with
> > Netopia routers for DSL and we've had no problems. But if you
> > want to look at a metro frame relay solution, we can work up something
> > there. Let me know.
> > =/=
> >
> > Can that be true, or are they just trying to force me into Netopia
> > equipment?
> >
> > Any comments to this is greatly appreciated.
>
>
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