Hey,
there are too many different kind of people around, some of them are really
keen on being the real one, some of them
simply go for the test(s) and get the title and that all. attitude changes
when they are all the way up along their
career path, I don;t care who he/she is a real one or not, as long as they
can help and get the job done.
I came across a lot of this type of people. Wether you arre good or bad, the
people in this industry konw you
Sam Li
----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE
> It seems rather silly to me that a CCIE would suggest that a Sun box would
> "flood the wire with excessive SMB traffic". I'm not saying this rules
> this man out of being CCIE, just that the diagnoses is a poor one coming
> from anyone, even if they don't know about FW1.
>
> -Brad
>
>
> At 12:54 PM 10/23/00 -0700, Nnanna Obuba wrote:
> >
> >
> >Because he does not know about a bug in checkpoint he
> >is a phony CCIE? In case you jave forgotten, CCIE
> >means
> >certified CISCO Internetwork Expert... give the guy a
> >break
> >
> >Nnanna
> >
> >--- Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Raul-
> >>
> >> I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by
> >> pinging an large number of
> >> hosts simultaneously. I asked him (the bogus ccie)
> >> why he thought that would
> >> bring down the firewall? His reply? "The fact that I
> >> pinged more than 50
> >> hosts rapid fire caused the NT and Solaris servers
> >> on the LAN to start
> >> flooding the wire with excessive SMB traffic, and
> >> since the firewall saw
> >> that much SMB traffic it thought I was an intruder
> >> and shut down the
> >> interface I was attached to." Real reason: The old
> >> Firewall one software had
> >> a bug that misallocated memory for packet queues on
> >> internal interfaces. My
> >> excessive pinging caused the queue to overflow and
> >> the software itself
> >> crashed. An update fixed the problem. At least that
> >> was what the data center
> >> manager told me.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >> Raul F. Fernandez
> >> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:57 AM
> >> To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco
> >> Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear folks,
> >>
> >> I have to agree with Tim on this one. It may have
> >> been possible that the
> >> person at this site just did not pay enough
> >> attention to the question posed
> >> or that he may not known the answer. I do not know
> >> thew nature of the
> >> question. Perhaps Mark could be kind enough to let
> >> us know what the
> >> question was or were. Now depending on the nature
> >> and difficulty of the
> >> question it may justify his not being able to answer
> >> it. If he is lying he
> >> should be disciplined because he lied and because he
> >> has taken for granted
> >> all the blood sweat and tears that goes into getting
> >> a CCIE. I think too
> >> many folks get caught up in the CCIE and forget all
> >> the real hard work that
> >> goes into it. Basically, if he does not know the
> >> answer to a perplexing
> >> question he should at least be able to outline a
> >> troubleshooting plan to
> >> find it.
> >>
> >> Raul
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cisco
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:51 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> >>
> >>
> >> >Just because a guy can config a router it does not
> >> make him a god. Lets
> >> face
> >> >it guys, there is nobody out there that knows
> >> everything about everything,
> >> >and if there is someone that thinks they do, I
> >> guarantee there is someone
> >> >else out there that knows more than they do.
> >> Obviously if this guy is lying
> >> >about his CCIE he should be exposed, and after
> >> reported it is up to Cisco
> >> to
> >> >deal with as they see fit.
> >> >
> >> >.02
> >> >
> >> >Tim
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Sam LI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >To: "Mark Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:41 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Well, even some real one behave like this, i come
> >> across a few in the the
> >> >past
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM
> >> >Subject: Possible phony CCIE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Greetings-
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I recently worked on a project with a fellow who
> >> claimed to be a CCIE. He
> >> >> even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it.
> >> At least I think it is
> >> the
> >> >> CCIE logo. It is a router symbol surrounded with
> >> laurels and has the
> >> words
> >> >> Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer circling it
> >> as well. After asking
> >> >this
> >> >> person a few questions, I became suspicious of
> >> his credentials due to his
> >> >> apparent lack of knowledge of the fundamentals.
> >> (I never asked for his
> >> >CCIE
> >> >> number because I attempted verification only
> >> after I left the account). I
> >> >> faxed a copy of the business card he gave me
> >> (homemade BTW) to someone in
> >> >> the CCIE program at Cisco. She told me the card
> >> is bogus and that she
> >> >would
> >> >> send the card to the Cisco lawyers. That was
> >> three months ago and this
> >> >> person is STILL working on site there. What do
> >> you people think I should
> >> >do
> >> >> now? Send e-mail to the persons that are
> >> contracting him there? He is
> >> >> charging a very high bill rate. The people he is
> >> working don't have
> >> enough
> >> >> knowledge to confirm his credentials. Should I
> >> let this go? Isn't part of
> >> >my
> >> >> cert agreement with Cisco to protect the logo? I
> >> feel that Cisco isn't
> >> >doing
> >> >> anything to protect us here.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mark Cohen
> >> >> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> >> >>
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