>
Let's try for some perspective here. It's highly unlikely,
especially in the carrier space, that any one vendor will always have
the ideal solution. If they have it at one point, they may not
continue to have it -- a competitor may recognize that advantage and
build something specifically going after it.
Also, there's a problem of being sure you compare apples and apples.
I'm in the process of updating an Internet-Draft on single-router BGP
convergence time, which will have coauthors from several vendors and
comments from even more. Believe me, the vendors' own developers and
performance/quality testers are as eager as the customers to have
objective tests to be judged against. Not to have such criteria means
that they are in a constant battle against competitor salesdroids
quoting oversimplified or irrelevant numbers, and pushing
inappropriately that "bigger is always better."
***side note on why bigger is not better: cost per gigabit, or cost
per interface that can support a given line rate, may be more useful,
for example, than an arbitrary forwarding cost.
>Actually, that's not true anymore. Cisco released their OC192 routers
>about 3-4 weeks ago and it performs and scales better than Juniper's
>routers.
Working for Nortel, I think I'm reasonably objective about this
question. Performs and scales well under what conditions? Offered
bandwidth? Filtering and traffic shaping rules.
>Juniper's equipment doesn't scale well and performance loss is experienced
>under a full loaded node of interface cards. Cisco's stuff doesn't do this
>and because of their independent architecture and design, everything runs at
>a carrier class level whether it has just one card or 8.
What is your definition of "carrier class?"
>
>
>Juniper was first to come out with the fastest backbone routers, but because
>Cisco retains the carrier class reliability, performance, and
>scalability...that's why it took them a bit longer. I guess it's worth the
>wait.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan West
>To: Buri, Heather H; 'cslx'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Sent: 2/26/2001 8:06 AM
>Subject: RE: juniper and cisco
>
>For our company, Cisco does not yet provide reliable
>products that scale to OC192 and beyond. Juniper
>easily handles this for our backbone interfaces. I
>don't work with it directly myself, but that's what
>the higher-up engineers have told our group. :>
>
>--- "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From what I understand from people who work with
>> large scale providers,
>> Juniper is stronger in the Backbone. I believe
>> Cisco is probably still the
>> best for overall Enterprise products.
>>
>> Heather Buri
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cslx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:56 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: juniper and cisco
>>
>>
>> it is said that the core technology of juniper is
>> better than cisco now,it
>> that true?
>>
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