It seems from talking to both Juniper and Cisco sales reps that

Cisco's strategy is:
  bash, bash, bash Juniper...

Juniper's strategy is:
  here are our products and let me show you want it can do...

I personally prefer Juniper's approach.

Also I recently talked to this guy at a conference (Chuck something...no 
relation to the other Chucks on the list...I don't think :-).  He said that 
his Cisco GSR's were the cause of his bottlenecks after they added Juniper 
M40's to their network.  This was at OC48 speeds (not OC192) and he said 
that the GSR's were forwarding at rates closer to OC12.  Again, I don't know 
this gentlemen, but the router topic came up and this is what he said.

Another person I talked to had an interesting story.  He was in the market 
for a high end router and called up a Cisco rep (of course) and an Foundry 
rep.  He said that both reps had comparison charts for their products vs 
Juniper.  At that time he had never heard of Juniper.  Since both these reps 
were comparing their products to Juniper, they thought, "hey, we should 
probably take a look at Juniper, whoever these guys are..."  They ended up 
going with Juniper.

I'm sure each router has its goods and bads...In any case, if you're going 
to drop $500K on *one* router, do your research and demo the product... 
before you buy.


>Again, I haven't worked with Juniper but I know folks who have and
>they haven't told me about the sort of problem you describe.
>
>Are your comments from personal experience or is this "Cisco
>says..."?

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