I don't think that anyone at Juniper or ISP's for that matter would consider the CCIE 
cert as junior, or in any way lacking in technical difficulty.  The issue is one of 
applicability.  ISP's deal at some depth with IP routing which is about 1/2 at most of 
the CCIE program.  As such, the cert doesn't by default convey the ideal skillset on 
behalf of its holder.

Pete
 

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On 3/14/2001 at 10:04 AM Net Bum wrote:

>>From what I've heard, CCIE is considered a junior level cert when it
>comes 
>to ISP's.  Comments on this?  ISP consider Juniper, Nortel, Lucent certs 
>more appropriate....whereas CCIE would be more for the enterprise.
>
>Curtis Call wrote:
>>
>>I have taken the Juniper Internet Specialist Exam (multiple choice).  If
>>you're looking for a comparison, then I can say that it is a lot more
>>demanding than any of the Cisco Exams I have taken as of yet. (CCNP, CCIE
>>Written).
>>
>>At 03:25 AM 3/14/01, you wrote:
>> >yup there is http://www.juniper.net/training/certification/
>> >
>> >i wonder how tough is the exam.....  anyone here took it?
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> >Deepak Sharma
>> >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 2:20 PM
>> >To: sipitung
>> >Cc: Cisco group study
>> >Subject: Re: The Internet core router
>> >
>> >
>> >lol.....anyone know if there is a Juniper cert out there?!?!
>> >
>> >sipitung wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi, please have a look this site
>> > >
>> > > http://www.lightreading.com/testing/
>> > >
>> > > Have you any comment about this ? Let's us know your opinion.
>> > >
>> > > Thanx
>> > > Si Pitung
>
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