Check out the ISP Dial CCIE track. It is very targeted towards the SP
centric technology. There is a refresh of the ISP Dial track in progress
which will merge in the WAN Switching and DSL gear.
""Brian"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Yeah makes me wish they had ISP specific certs. Having worked for this
type
> of company for 6 years, I could care less about IPX, AppleTalk, or
> tokenring. It does as I think about it seem to affirm that Cisco is more
> interested in the Enterprise approach. Thing is, ISPs are mostly fading
> away, to the point where there are very few that are not your local telco.
>
> Bri
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:34 AM
> Subject: ISPs and Certification (was: The Internet core router)
>
>
> > >From what I've heard, CCIE is considered a junior level cert when it
> comes
> > >to ISP's. Comments on this? ISP consider Juniper, Nortel, Lucent
certs
> > >more appropriate....whereas CCIE would be more for the enterprise.
> >
> > ¨
> > That's my general impression. ISPs don't use non-IP protocols.
> > (after all, we don't call them non-ISP's). You won't see any token
> > ring, you're fairly unlikely to see DDR, virtual private dial
> > networks, etc. There's a perception that breadth in irrelevant
> > skills in CCIE take away from depth in IP routing. While ISPs are
> > starting to deal with voice, voice, tunneled non-IP traffic, etc.,
> > tends to be treated as a separate application dealt with by groups
> > other than the principal routing people.
> >
> > Performance monitoring and capacity planning are very important, but
> > again not dealt with at any serious level by Cisco
> > education/certification.
> >
> > Incidentally, Cisco does put out some excellent educational materials
> > for ISPs, but this is done by Consulting Engineering rather than
> > Worldwide Training. Check the archives for URLs. They do put on ISP
> > workshops, especially outside North America.
> >
> > While I hear such things might be coming, I've never seen or heard of
> > any courseware or exams from Cisco that get into the real-world
> > complexities of interprovider BGP, the interactions of BGP with IGPs
> > in a scalable way, the appropriate use of sub-IP protocols including
> > MPLS, etc.
> >
> > >
> > >Curtis Call wrote:
> > >>
> > >>I have taken the Juniper Internet Specialist Exam (multiple choice).
If
> > >>you're looking for a comparison, then I can say that it is a lot more
> > >>demanding than any of the Cisco Exams I have taken as of yet. (CCNP,
> CCIE
> > >>Written).
> > >>
> > >>At 03:25 AM 3/14/01, you wrote:
> > >> >yup there is http://www.juniper.net/training/certification/
> > >> >
> > >> >i wonder how tough is the exam..... anyone here took it?
> > > > >
> > >
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> > directly to me***
> >
> > Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
> > Senior Mgr. IP Protocols & Algorithms, Advanced Technology Investments,
> > NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder!
> > "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
> >
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