>From what I've heard, CCIE is considered a junior level cert when it comes
>to ISP's. Comments on this? ISP consider Juniper, Nortel, Lucent certs
>more appropriate....whereas CCIE would be more for the enterprise.
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That's my general impression. ISPs don't use non-IP protocols.
(after all, we don't call them non-ISP's). You won't see any token
ring, you're fairly unlikely to see DDR, virtual private dial
networks, etc. There's a perception that breadth in irrelevant
skills in CCIE take away from depth in IP routing. While ISPs are
starting to deal with voice, voice, tunneled non-IP traffic, etc.,
tends to be treated as a separate application dealt with by groups
other than the principal routing people.
Performance monitoring and capacity planning are very important, but
again not dealt with at any serious level by Cisco
education/certification.
Incidentally, Cisco does put out some excellent educational materials
for ISPs, but this is done by Consulting Engineering rather than
Worldwide Training. Check the archives for URLs. They do put on ISP
workshops, especially outside North America.
While I hear such things might be coming, I've never seen or heard of
any courseware or exams from Cisco that get into the real-world
complexities of interprovider BGP, the interactions of BGP with IGPs
in a scalable way, the appropriate use of sub-IP protocols including
MPLS, etc.
>
>Curtis Call wrote:
>>
>>I have taken the Juniper Internet Specialist Exam (multiple choice). If
>>you're looking for a comparison, then I can say that it is a lot more
>>demanding than any of the Cisco Exams I have taken as of yet. (CCNP, CCIE
>>Written).
>>
>>At 03:25 AM 3/14/01, you wrote:
>> >yup there is http://www.juniper.net/training/certification/
>> >
>> >i wonder how tough is the exam..... anyone here took it?
> > >
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