Yeah makes me wish they had ISP specific certs. Having worked for this type
of company for 6 years, I could care less about IPX, AppleTalk, or
tokenring. It does as I think about it seem to affirm that Cisco is more
interested in the Enterprise approach. Thing is, ISPs are mostly fading
away, to the point where there are very few that are not your local telco.
Bri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: ISPs and Certification (was: The Internet core router)
> >From what I've heard, CCIE is considered a junior level cert when it
comes
> >to ISP's. Comments on this? ISP consider Juniper, Nortel, Lucent certs
> >more appropriate....whereas CCIE would be more for the enterprise.
>
> ¨
> That's my general impression. ISPs don't use non-IP protocols.
> (after all, we don't call them non-ISP's). You won't see any token
> ring, you're fairly unlikely to see DDR, virtual private dial
> networks, etc. There's a perception that breadth in irrelevant
> skills in CCIE take away from depth in IP routing. While ISPs are
> starting to deal with voice, voice, tunneled non-IP traffic, etc.,
> tends to be treated as a separate application dealt with by groups
> other than the principal routing people.
>
> Performance monitoring and capacity planning are very important, but
> again not dealt with at any serious level by Cisco
> education/certification.
>
> Incidentally, Cisco does put out some excellent educational materials
> for ISPs, but this is done by Consulting Engineering rather than
> Worldwide Training. Check the archives for URLs. They do put on ISP
> workshops, especially outside North America.
>
> While I hear such things might be coming, I've never seen or heard of
> any courseware or exams from Cisco that get into the real-world
> complexities of interprovider BGP, the interactions of BGP with IGPs
> in a scalable way, the appropriate use of sub-IP protocols including
> MPLS, etc.
>
> >
> >Curtis Call wrote:
> >>
> >>I have taken the Juniper Internet Specialist Exam (multiple choice). If
> >>you're looking for a comparison, then I can say that it is a lot more
> >>demanding than any of the Cisco Exams I have taken as of yet. (CCNP,
CCIE
> >>Written).
> >>
> >>At 03:25 AM 3/14/01, you wrote:
> >> >yup there is http://www.juniper.net/training/certification/
> >> >
> >> >i wonder how tough is the exam..... anyone here took it?
> > > >
> >
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