When I was 17 years old (1987), I washed chili pots @ the local greasy spoon
for $3 an hour... wondering how I was going to pay for college.  My senior
worked 9 to 4 (I worked 4 to 11, sometimes 12AM), made $5 an hour, only had
the cushy lunch crowd to contend with, & left the tough pots for me.

I feel your pain.

Pay your dues & change things when you get in a position to.

Phil



----- Original Message -----
From: Russ Kreigh 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: Failed CCDA [7:1698]


> I too am only 17 years old and like Priscilla I think this is a
> controversial topic. However, I have a very strong opinion, therefore am
> going to express it. :-) I currently work for an local ISP and have quite
a
> bit of Cisco experience along with very much UNIX (BSDi, Linux, HP-UX,
> Solaris), HTML, JavaScript, ASP, PERL, etc etc. However, I make
> significantly less that a new guy that was hired to work along with me. I
am
> just as qualified, if not more. Of course, there are other issues to
> consider; I am part-time and he is full time, I know that makes a
> difference, that part I understand. But, I feel that a large portion of it
> has to do with my age, not based on my ability to perform my job.
>
> On a Cisco related note, I am going to schedule my CCDA exam within the
next
> month, along with my CCNA. I am very confident that I will do good on my
> CCNA, and have been studying CCDA material and getting some real-life
> experience in my job.
>
> The message I am trying to point out is that just because we may be young
> doesn't mean that we should not be taken seriously. Also, I know that my
age
> also offends some people who have been in the field a long time. I can't
> really speak from expeirence here, but I know that more women have choosen
> careers in the Technology field in the past 10 years. Just as their
> co-workers have come to accept it more, they are going to have to accept
> that us young adults can be capable of doing the same job.
>
> -Russ
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]
>
>
> I'm going to say something Very controversial here, which is that I think
> it's a good sign that a 17-year old had a hard time with the CCDA test. It
> validates the test a bit. Design requires experience. Can someone who has
> just learned to drive, design a car? Can someone who has just started
> learning networking, design a network?
>
> Remember that I teach (part-time) at the high school level and I love the
> energy, quick thinking, and creativity of that age group. I strongly
> believe that the inventions that they will develop will be even more
> amazing than the ones our generation came up with. So I do not make this
> comment out of prejudice.
>
> Aaron, it sounds like you know which areas you need to study a bit more in
> order to pass the test, so I'm sure you'll do well next time. Good luck!
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 09:02 AM 4/24/01, you wrote:
> >Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37 points.  I made a
> 718
> >and i needed a 755 to pass....  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for a
> >couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak in,
i
> >think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
> >Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.  So
i
> >guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and
sample
> >tests for me.  Thanks guys.
> >
> >~Aaron Vose
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