Cisco announced a little over a month ago that they no longer require sales
to be a silver / gold partner. They require specialization in place of
sales now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard C. Berkowitz"
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]
> Unfortunately, you are running into something endemic to the DC area,
> especially the Federal government. Agencies have head count
> restrictions, but still need staffing. So, there have evolved a
> class of brokers that rent out people to the using organizations.
> The brokers often mark up your rate by 100% or more, although they do
> have to float receivables for 60 days or more.
>
> Becoming a Cisco partner just needs the right certificated people,
> which, at the lower level, could be the principals. As I remember,
> though, continued partner status also means a certain level of sales.
> A pure body shop won't have equipment sales. Unfortunately again,
> it's often easier for government agencies to deal with a small
> business reseller, perhaps under minority business 8(a) setasides --
> they can just go make small purchases without complex procurement.
>
> Don't expect any real support from your direct employer, but keep an
> open mind about the client. I spent three good solid years at the US
> Labor Department as an ostensibly "temporary contractor," which is
> where I really broke into system programming and networking. Some
> clients exploit the system, but others recognize that it's really
> their job to motivate the contractors and can be quite decent to
> them. Good clients may find loopholes for such things as training --
> they can't pay your salary to attend an offsite class, but they may
> have in-house classes and let you "drop in" -- even with credit.
>
>
> >Hey Group,
> >
> >Thanks for all the input -- I really do appreciate it.
> >
> >Just to add a few facts to this -- the company that called me -- is a
Cisco
> >SILVER partner -- not simply a pure unadulterated head-hunter -- sort of
a
> >hybrid (like EIGRP!! ).
> >
> >Of course it goes without saying that -- as one person said -- it's an
> >on-the-job-interview. If I -- or any of the others who report on day 1
> >aren't acceptable -- then we simply are not there on Day 2. But what
does
> >it say about the Silver Partner?? Is this guy honest?? If he fails to
> >properly screen the people he sends to the client -- isn't he -- at the
very
> >least -- intellectually dishonest?? And if that's true -- how would he
treat
> >his employees?? Would he promise the moon (e.g. oh yeah, paychecks every
two
> >weeks) and then not come through??
> >
> >Who is our loyalty to go towars?? The client -- who we know is being
given
> >less than bargained for -- or the guy who's paying for our salary?? I
> >already know the practical answer -- but somewhere in those Cisco books
we
> >all study -- I'm sure it also says that we are to have honesty and
integrity
> >in our dealings with clients. Doesn't it?????? Oh well. . . .
> >
> >Thanks again to all of you for your time in answering.
> >
> >Gerg Macaulay
> >Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth (really!!!)
> >Lifetime member of AARP
> >Retired Attorney/Law Professor
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:38 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]
> >
> >
> >I think it would be a mistake to take a job without an in-person
interview.
> >I did it once. My boss turned out to be an (expletive deleted).
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >At 04:58 AM 4/28/01, you wrote:
> >>Gd' Day Everyone,
> >>
> >>I need some input (comments, criticisms, enlightenment, suggestions,
etc.)
> >>rather quickly. I'm in the DC metro area. Someone grabbed my resume off
> >>Monster and called me two weeks ago -- asked NO technical questions --
and
> >>basically gave me a brief synopsis of his company -- cnfirmed my salary
> >>requirements -- and said he would "circulate my resume to others in his
> >>company" and "if there was interest, he'd get back to me."
> >>
> >>Last nite -- Friday 4/27 at about 8:00 p.m., he calls again -- asks only
if
> >>I'm available -- and then says I can report to work on Tuesday 5/1.
Again,
> >>no technical questions -- simply confirmed my salary requirements -- and
> >>simply wanted me to FAX a copy of my certs to him. Nothing else.
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