lmao... what timing for that story to come out, just when Jason's talking
about his buddy...
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----- Original Message -----
From: adam lee
To:
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> Are you sure he's not Willie Brown's friend?
>
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/04/30/MN165362.DTL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
>
>
> My friend was hired for the City/County of SF for $96K/year 3 months ago
> with just his CNE. Plus they bought out the rest of his $150K contract
with
> his previous employer, and paid for all the training he owned his former
> employer (he'd been working exclusively for this customer anyway for the
> last 6 mos.)
>
> Granted, he knows ZEN and can image every PC on their entire network in 15
> minutes and replaced 5 help-desk folks who used to do what ZEN does in a
few
> clicks of a button (they still kept a few screwdrivers to replace
hardware).
> And that's just the eye-candy stuff that his manager likes to show off,
he's
> got a solid years as a CNE under his belt (and not for mom-and-pop
networks,
> but for large enterprise clients) plus a year as an understudy before.
>
> Of course, this guy is sharp as a TAC (pun-intended). He'll pick up his
> MCSE 2000 by the end of the year if he applies himself (he did the CNE5 in
3
> months of self-study and building his own servers, plus hands-on
experience
> as an understudy to some of our ECNE/MCNE's). That is, if he ever goes
> home. Heh, he even keeps a cot and a change of clothes at the office for
> those late nights.
>
> The funniest thing is that his house cost less than 10 months of his gross
> salary. But then he lives out in sticksville (but they do have
> cablemodems).
>
> I dunno, I find it kinda funny because he's the guy that came over with
RH5
> one day two years ago and said, "Hey, you wanna install this?" and we
> proceeded to waste the night away and piss off both of our Wives. Hehee.
>
> --
> Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
>
>
>
> ""Brian"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Novell certification, let's look at what kind of jobs that gets you.
> >
> > 1 a job at a company which is migrating from Novell to NT, and will let
> > you go when the transition is complete.
> >
> > 2 a job at a company that is too cheap to replace its legacy mishmash
> > network.
> >
> > I'll pass either way.
> >
> > Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> > Success = Preparation + Opportunity
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Donald B Johnson jr wrote:
> >
> > > The Grand dad of all certs and now it is sneared at.
> > > I am not working on a novell network so I let that slide at 4.11.
never
> > up'd
> > > to 5
> > > Don
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ronnie Poon"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> > >
> > >
> > > > How about Novell CNE. It also have a same thing.
> > > >
> > > > Donald B Johnson jr wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah I got a mcse in 96 and thought the same thing when it
happened
> to
> > > that
> > > > > program. OH well!!!!!!!! I still want to be part of the swelling
> ranks.
> > > You
> > > > > could drop out and help us out though :>).
> > > > > Don
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Tennesee Stud"
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:28 AM
> > > > > Subject: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering what others thought about the CCIE. It seems to
> me
> > > now
> > > > > that
> > > > > > there are so many books and training materials geared towards
the
> > > CCIE,
> > > > it
> > > > > > is making it easier to obtain the CCIE. With a steady diet of
the
> > > right
> > > > > > books ( which everyone seems to agree on) and hands on time with
> > > routers
> > > > > and
> > > > > > switches ( which to me is the only obstacle), it does not seem
as
> > > > > difficlut
> > > > > > as it proclaimed (and I think most people see that).My opinion
is
> the
> > > > CCIE
> > > > > > will be devalued considerably in the next few years (As far as
> > salary
> > > is
> > > > > > concerned as well as prestige) As others have pointed out, the
> CCIE
> > > > > > population is growing at a faster rate (routing and switching),
> and
> > > even
> > > > > > though the demand is high for the CCIE now, I think in 2 years
> there
> > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > a difference in the way the industry views CCIE's....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .02 thats all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tennesee Stud
> > > > > >
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