guys,
i agree with most things that have been said apart from this....
the IE LAB ....this has done and will continue to strike fear into the
hearts and minds of everyone....
the current pass stats for each lab is 15%......15%....that means for every
10 students on there lab only 1.5 will pass....this means that THIS cred
will ALWAYS mean something.......when my friend passed his
lab this was the end result
10 people started day 1 ...
by end of day 1.... 2 people left
by end of day 2 he remains.....and passed
he`s not the only one.. i remember someone else saying that happened to
them..
this is cisco`s way of protecting the ccie
i personally beleive that this is good for them aswell as us....
they are aware that if the CCIE is an easy pass for wasters...then there kit
is for wasters as well..
this is also why a well-known...to me anyway proctor has told me this
"the lab is harder than it used to be ..... i am now strickter that i used
to be ...if i don`t ...my job is on the line and so is your`s"
he also said
" 5,000 pounds/7,000 dollars is NO-WAY near enough money to make me let you
pass.......#500,000 pounds/$650,000 and maybe we`ll talk....i SAID maybe.."
"and if you try that with anyone else they will strip you of all your
creds..."
he`s a bit of a moany old git...but hey....i HAVE to like him.....
.......EEK....
steve "hold my hand mummy i`m scared" skinner
:-*
>From: "Jim Gillen"
>Reply-To: "Jim Gillen"
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:48:06 -0400
>
>I would also add that there are many people with the CCIE who have done
>intensive training courses and may have the qualification but not the
>required experience. Those CCIE's who have a depth of experience will
>always
>be in demand. After all the CCIE qualification is not easy to get, even
>with
>the intensive training.
>
>I find it difficult to understand where this is all coming from, is it the
>technology stock shakeout or CISCO dumping staff???? I have seen this
>happen
>a number of times in the last few years and technology always bounces back
>(I'm not sure about the stock price levels). As far as I am concerned
>getting the CCIE should not be regarded as a magic bullet to financial
>bliss...if you are interested and committed to this profession then you
>will
>do well no matter what.
>
>I went to a number of business practice seminars for consultants when I was
>running my own consulting business. They were very strong on the suggestion
>that consultants (not just It consultants) must reinvent themselves every
>two years. So I think everyone reading this should realize that,
>particularly in IT, that with the rate of change as fast as it is we all
>need to expect that we will need to re-evaluate our future at regular
>intervals.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Jim Gillen
>
>Snr Communications Engineer
>AUSTRAC
>
>Ph: 9950 0842
>Fax: 9950 0074
>
>
>
> >>> "Jason J. Roysdon" 26/04/01 9:57:40 >>>
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>I can't see the certification being devalued. Cisco is constantly making
>the test harder by adding more and more relevant items and removing those
>that are not. Plus, by forcing older CCIE's to keep current with the CCIE
>Written is decertifying those that don't care and keeping the numbers from
>growing too fast.
>
>And, as you say, with the need for more and more folks at this caliber is
>increasing, I don't think there will be any problem with the demand keeping
>up with the increased supply. Not if the AVVID thing takes off for one
>(and
>it is, at least for us). Our local county let their top PBX staff go and
>is
>looking to implement VoIP (I don't know why they cut first and didn't get
>the new system in place first, but government doesn't always make sense).
>The question is, of course, who will win, 3Com, Nortel, or Cisco (our shop
>actually does all 3, so we don't care so long as we win the bid, hehee).
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
>Just checking the current numbers, they're not up that high - 5595 Active
>CCIEs (4992 as of 11/01/2000, up 137 since 4855 CCIEs as of 06/01/2000,
>which was up 156 since 03/31/2000 at 4699). That's only 896 new CCIEs in
>year. Granted, it sounds like a lot (~75/month), but compare that to the
>MCSE numbers (which I'd love to see, especially with the new Win2k stuff
>out). Especially if you figure probably a third, if not more are Cisco
>employees ;-p
>
>--
>Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
>List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
>
>
>
>""Tennesee Stud"" wrote in message
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> > I was wondering what others thought about the CCIE. It seems to me now
>that
> > there are so many books and training materials geared towards the CCIE,
>it
> > is making it easier to obtain the CCIE. With a steady diet of the right
> > books ( which everyone seems to agree on) and hands on time with routers
>and
> > switches ( which to me is the only obstacle), it does not seem as
>difficlut
> > as it proclaimed (and I think most people see that).My opinion is the
>CCIE
> > will be devalued considerably in the next few years (As far as salary
>is
> > concerned as well as prestige) As others have pointed out, the CCIE
> > population is growing at a faster rate (routing and switching), and even
> > though the demand is high for the CCIE now, I think in 2 years there
>will
>be
> > a difference in the way the industry views CCIE's....
> >
> > .02 thats all
> >
> > Tennesee Stud
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