Perhaps I was unclear by my meaning.
A station running Ethernet II that receives a ethernet_Snap frame discards
it.  It is unintelligible.  

This is was what I meant by being in separate broadcast domains.  A router
or server advertising services to more than one frame type has to generate a
separate advertisement broadcast for every frame type, thusly It is
reasonable to say that each frame type creates a separate broadcast domain.
(Same wire, separate domains.)

The question is rather blurry though.  If it truly is a separate broadcast
domains, then the NIC should discard the frame without generating an
interrupt.  If it passes it to the o/s to discard, then I'm not sure what it
is?!

IMHO, fwiw
-Ejay

-----Original Message-----
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Yes, each frame type is associated with a different network number. They 
are not different representations of the same network number. They are 
different networks.

Broadcast domains have nothing to do with it. If all devices in these four 
networks are connected via hubs or switches, they see each other's 
broadcasts. They process the broadcasts at the data-link-layer and only 
process them further if they are running the same Ethernet frame type.

If these are really internal network numbers, then the question is moot. 
Internal network numbers don't need a frame type!?

Priscilla

At 10:46 AM 7/12/01, Hire, Ejay wrote:
>Each different frame type acts as a separate broadcast domain, thus they
>have different network numbers.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:41 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
>
>
>Thanks for all the responses. This is the only IPX speaking box on the wire
>and the first NW5.1 server to be brought up. I understand that it supports
>and automatically loads all IPX frame types by default if IPX is chosen
>along with the default and preferred IP protocol. From the replies it seems
>that each frame type would belong to a DIFFERENT IPX network? Or is it just
>DIFFERENT WAYS of writing out IPX network addresses depending on the frame
>type used?
>Again, thanks for the enlightenment.
>
>Elmer
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:29 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
>
>
>Interesting. Why would it generate network numbers, though? Shouldn't
>network numbers be manually configured?
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 04:11 PM 7/11/01, Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote:
> >I finally feel qualified to comment on a question on this list (having
> >worked with NetWare for the past 6 years)
> >
> >The addresses you're seeing are generated automatically.  What's
happening
> >here is that the new server has every single Ethernet frame type loaded,
>and
> >as a result is using different IPX network number for every frame type.
>New
> >3.x and 4.x servers will do this if you perform an install using all the
> >defaults.  You need to run INSTALL (or NWCONFIG if 5.x), edit the
> >AUTOEXEC.NCF and remove all BIND statements referencing frame types you
> >don't want to use.  Ethernet_II is preferred.
> >
> >NetWare 5.x is more restrained and tries to use IP only.
> >
> > >>> "Ayers, Michael"  07/11/01 12:12PM >>>
> >Those were either auto generated, or picked up from reading frames on the
> >wire.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:   Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent:   Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:31 AM
> >To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject:        IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
> >
> >hi, group.
> >I just noticed that after installing NetWare server, it gave me this info
> >regarding types of IPX frames:
> >Frame type              Network address
> >Ethernet_802.2          3D410DCD
> >Ethernet_802.3          1E0F4F9E
> >Ethernet_SNAP           FF994BB0
> >Ethernet_II             D393B805
> >
> >For the IPX gurus in the group, can someone tell me if there is some type
>of
> >logic as to how the network address is translated from the type of frame
> >used?
> >Just to answer my curiosity.
> >Thank you.
>________________________
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com
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