Thanks all.
Does makes sense now. I still like IPX better than IP for small LANs. At
least no ICMP attacks / DDOS to worry about.

Elmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Ayers, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Elmer,
Novell just randomly picks numbers, probably a function of the hardware's
SN, and maybe Date Time.  Point is, I would prefer to use a coherent scheme
for net ID's, and would be removing any Frame types I'm not using.  If you
ever add another Novell server, you MUST make sure that the new server is
set with these hardware ID's.

The best way to understand this is to read the Cisco material for CCNA on
IPX sub interfaces.  It explains that each frame type must be a separate
network, and if you have older systems running Novell_ether(802.3...No LLC)
and newer ones running SAP (802.3+802.2LLC) on the same segment, you can
have the router route between sub-interfaces by encapsulating 2 sub-ifs, one
with novell_ether, and the other with sap.  You do have to specify the
network ID's per sub-if.




Thank You,


Michael Ayers
Network Engineer
 > OneNeck IT Services
(480) 539-2203
(800) 272-3077


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:41 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]

Thanks for all the responses. This is the only IPX speaking box on the wire
and the first NW5.1 server to be brought up. I understand that it supports
and automatically loads all IPX frame types by default if IPX is chosen
along with the default and preferred IP protocol. From the replies it seems
that each frame type would belong to a DIFFERENT IPX network? Or is it just
DIFFERENT WAYS of writing out IPX network addresses depending on the frame
type used?
Again, thanks for the enlightenment.

Elmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IPX Network addresses [7:11990]


Interesting. Why would it generate network numbers, though? Shouldn't 
network numbers be manually configured?

Priscilla

At 04:11 PM 7/11/01, Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote:
>I finally feel qualified to comment on a question on this list (having
>worked with NetWare for the past 6 years)
>
>The addresses you're seeing are generated automatically.  What's happening
>here is that the new server has every single Ethernet frame type loaded,
and
>as a result is using different IPX network number for every frame type.
New
>3.x and 4.x servers will do this if you perform an install using all the
>defaults.  You need to run INSTALL (or NWCONFIG if 5.x), edit the
>AUTOEXEC.NCF and remove all BIND statements referencing frame types you
>don't want to use.  Ethernet_II is preferred.
>
>NetWare 5.x is more restrained and tries to use IP only.
>
> >>> "Ayers, Michael"  07/11/01 12:12PM >>>
>Those were either auto generated, or picked up from reading frames on the
>wire.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:   Elmer Deloso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent:   Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:31 AM
>To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:        IPX Network addresses [7:11990]
>
>hi, group.
>I just noticed that after installing NetWare server, it gave me this info
>regarding types of IPX frames:
>Frame type              Network address
>Ethernet_802.2          3D410DCD
>Ethernet_802.3          1E0F4F9E
>Ethernet_SNAP           FF994BB0
>Ethernet_II             D393B805
>
>For the IPX gurus in the group, can someone tell me if there is some type
of
>logic as to how the network address is translated from the type of frame
>used?
>Just to answer my curiosity.
>Thank you.
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