I think we all need to turn down the scripting quoting and bible thumping a
bit. Like someone said earlier, religious talk on a technical distribution
list approaches the unacceptable. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but
this is really not the forum for religious debate. I am sure that we are all
deeply affected by todays events. Let's not start a theological open debate
forum on this CISCO STUDY GROUP over it though. Just my two cents. That
being said, living in Hudson County, NJ (directly across the Hudson River
from lower Manhattan), this hits really close to home for me. I was at home
today (on a vacation day) and I was able to see the towers from a couple of
blocks from my home. The NYC skyline will never be the same. My heart goes
out to the families of the brave policemen and firefighters who lost their
lives, not to mention the innocent people who worked in the buildings, whose
only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I will think of
these people every time I look to the East.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Circusnuts
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:21 PM
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Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
In Biblical history I believe this (assuming this US attack sourced out of
the middle east) started in Genesis with Abraham's sons Isaac & Ishmael. As
far as the "why me," we can again look @ scriptures to see that it rains on
both the just & unjust. We can also analyze America & see that it's not
exactly consumed with what I would call "God's chosen people." Many of us
are faithful, but many of us are not. We should be horrified by the
violence, but not surprise. This we are reminded of in Genesis too.
I couldn't help but think as I left work today, driving across the Woodrow
Wilson bridge heading into Virginia, I could see beyond National Airport to
the Pentagon where huge smoke trails filled the sky. Is what I'm feeling
the same sentiment felt almost 60 years ago during the Pearl Harbor attack
??? The "it's in my backyard & what am I willing to do" effect has set in.
I myself am a new father, with all the pride, hang-up's, & paranoia that
goes along with that new roll. I would fight like I have never had to fight
before to secure freedoms I have all but grown up with & know no different.
I hope the good people of the world can figure this thing out, but referring
to my first paragraph it should be no surprised.
A nation in our prayers
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Puckett, Larry (TIFPC)"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> Funny how it's always "Pushing religion is unacceptable" but never '
Pushing
> atheism is unacceptable' .....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
>
> pushing religion is pushing the limits of acceptable OT converstaion IMHO
>
> My deepest sympathy to those affected by this series of atrocities. A few
> weeks ago, a car bomb went off just up the road from my place (West
London),
> and I thought that was a wake up call.... the scale of this disaster is
just
> incomprehensible.
>
> Symon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Craig Richardson
> Sent: 11 September 2001 21:08
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
> I know this is off-topic and long, but I'll give it a shot anyway...
>
> Hello all, and much respect to everyone on this list.
> This is my first time writing to this list (as far as I can remember),
> although
> I have observed it for awhile. Most topics seem to be out of my Cisco
> range,
> but I do enjoy the information that crosses the list and I do respect
> everyone's
> opinion as their own. Terrible tragedies have been suffered today, and
many
> lives are now changed forever. As Priscilla mentioned, the damage to
> families
> is irreparable. However, to think that "if God existed, this incredible
> loss of life
> wouldn't have occurred in the first place", is to say that that the devil
> does not
> exist. God is very real and He does exist. Unfortunately, the devil is
> very real also,
> and he does exist. Many people think that the devil is a mythical figure
> that has
> nothing to do with current events, so they equate God with all of the good
> and the bad
> things. The fact is, that God does love us all, and it is not his desire
> that anyone of us
> should perish, but we all have an enemy, and that is the devil. Every
> opportunity he gets,
> he seeks to devour. God works through his people and He is patient.
> Tragedies do
> occur, but the blame should go to the devil, not God. When we pray, our
> prayers do make
> a difference as God hears our prayers. The "we" that I'm talking about is
> those that believe
> on His son, Jesus Christ. There is a spiritual war going on that must not
> be overlooked.
> Todays events are part of this war. The bible says it all. These are the
> "end times" that we
> are in. It is my hope that these tragedies will lead the rest of us to
> realize that we do need a
> saviour, and He is Jesus Christ. Please check Romans 14:10, 12/Ephesians
> 2:8,9/
> Romans 3:23/Romans 6:23/ and Romans 10:9,10. Also, the book of
Revelations
> tells much
> about the end times (which we've been in for quite some time). Prayer,
> along with using all
> available opportunities to help (like donating blood), goes a long way.
> Thank you.
>
> Craig.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B.J. Wilson
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: US Stock [7:19433]
>
>
> > Well, since we're off-topic anyway...maybe if God existed, this
incredible
> > loss of life wouldn't have occurred in the first place. Part of
> rebuilding
> > our society involves rebuilding our economy, so it's worth discussing.
As
> > far as life is concerned, I'm donating blood later today, and I've made
> sure
> > my two friends who live in NYC are okay. What are you doing besides
> > praying?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Juan Blanco"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Priscilla, you are %100 correct, these people here are thinking
> > > about the economic...when they shoulb be thinking about rebuilding
> > > families.....they should be thinking about a prayer to God in order to
> > save
> > > as many peoples as posible....
> > >
> > > My prayer to those that did not make it in the terror atack....
> > >
> > > God bless america..........
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 9/11/2001 12:45 PM
> > > Subject: RE: US Stock [7:19433]
> > >
> > > We're talking about rebuilding the economy? How about rebuilding
> > > families
> > > (if that can even be done??)
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 01:25 PM 9/11/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> > > >since you asked - this is real bad news for the economy. there are a
> > > number
> > > >of major financial firms located in the twin towers, all of whom have
> > > >probably lost key people. These are firms that drive the economy in
> > > terms of
> > > >investment and investment capital. how long will it take to get
things
> > > >straight? you will see spillovers into the stock market, into
planning,
> > > into
> > > >corporate spending. that translates into jobs.
> > > >
> > > >yes there will be rebuilding that must take place, and this will
> > > eventually
> > > >mean an economic boost. but maybe not for New York City. If I were a
> > > >survivor of one of these firms, and had the chance to build from
> > > scratch, I
> > > >would seriously consider relocating to Kansas. And I do not say that
> > > >sarcastically.
> > > >
> > > >this tragedy spills way beyond what one might think. In an economy as
> > > weak
> > > >as ours is now, this is real bad news indeed.
> > > >
> > > >hoping any number of friends and personal acquaintances who work in
> > > that
> > > >area are ok.
> > > >
> > > >Chuck
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
> > > >sparkest pig
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:56 AM
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: US Stock [7:19433]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Would the technology or other industry go down and the Department of
> > > >Defense funding go up? would this be good to us, the Cisco geeks?
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
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