Hi Paul... It is indeed your hobby and dedication which is making this list to keep on going and so what if one or two odd fellows come in between and say something which is not relevant to our goal of learning networks. This happens with anybody in this world who tries to help people by not askin for money in return and I doubt these odd guys will subscribe if you start asking them for money. So dear friend keep it up and hope we all reach up to a pint in our lives where we can help others without expecting anything in return.
cheers Tribavan -----Original Message----- From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 12 November 2001 5:47 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: List Circuitbreakers fired [7:25791] I do not get paid to manage groupstudy as it is a hobby of mine consuming countless hours of time I should be spending with my family. Every vacation we take gets somehow interrupted by some issue with groupstudy. Plus at times the we could have really used the money spent on GroupStudy for other things. Frankly my wife has been amazing supportive of the entire thing. I was talking to a friend of mine about the pains associated with managing this site. He could not believe all the crap that I need to deal with on a daily basis. So the next day I decided to keep a log of all of the things that I needed to take care of for that particular day. I was going to publish it but was later advised against it (see item 1). In a nutshell, on this one particular day I spent most of the day (in between doing my "real" job): 1. Dealing with a person who was threatening to sue me over a posting another list member sent (under the belief that I am responsible). This person was also suing the poster and the poster's company in an attempt to get the guy fired. I know this because he insisted on courtesy copying everyone involved on all correspondence. $100's of dollars in legal fees later I learned that the entire thing was frivolous and the courts were quite clear with numerous decisions that I am not liable. The case was later dropped. But it is still not pleasant to think that your financial future may be jepodized over a hobby. 2. Trying to help a person get off the list. I needed him to send me a header of one of the e-mails but everytime I asked for the header he would respond with obscenities and demand to be removed. But I needed the headers to figure out how he was receiving the messages. He ended up bouncing all of his messages (out of some sort of warped revenge) to my personal e-mail account. But at least then I was able to view the header and get him off the list. What I don't understand is if he was capable of bouncing e-mails to a third account, why all the obscenity? He should have understood the reasoning and just sent me the headers. 3. Tracked someone down at Cisco's request who broke the CCIE NDA. 4. Did an interview for a magazine for an article on GroupStudy.com. 5. Tracked down a hacker who had broken into a companies machine and was now attacking groupstudy.com. After blocking that machine from GroupStudy, I wrote to the contacts listed in the whois database. By some strange coincidence the security offer of the company called me (who I had never spoken to before) to discuss a matter concerning a posting on one of the lists that needs to be removed. He had no idea there was this problem with the hacker but was able to get me in contact with the technical people in the company so I could explain. If this was a job, believe me I would quit! We do sell a limited amount of banner ads, but that money goes towards the upkeep of the servers and lessens the burden of this site on me financially. For a while I was spending close to $1000/month on bandwidth before InFlow rescued us by giving the site free bandwidth. Now we seem to be at a break even point and may even have enough money for that new shinny server I have my eye on :-). So to make a long story short, Money OUT > Money IN while I believe most jobs use the formula Money IN > Money OUT. But like a real job AGGRAVATION>APPRECIATION. Paul Borghese P.S. Please let's improve the list by using our real names instead of cowarding behind a yahoo account and using anonymizer.com. If you are not willing to say something with your name attached to it - it should not be said. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hoe Moe" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:43 PM Subject: Re: List Circuitbreakers fired [7:25791] > How does doing your job make you a hero? I could see a > firefighter or a solider but someone who manages a > mailing list. Not a hero in my book. Besides he's > probably making a pretty penny off this list. > > > > ""JG"" wrote: > > > > I would like to thank mainly Paul Borghese, and lots > of unsung 'heroes' > > like Jonathan Hays in this case, for their > relentless effort to keep this > > list professional, up-to-par, and above all allowing > us this communication > > channel... > > > > THANX GUYS > > > > -- > > > > > > Rgrds' > > JG > > > > ---== Success, is where preparation, meets > opportunity ==--- > > > > > > ""Paul Borghese"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > This list has some custom "circuit breakers" we > have written that fire > > when > > > an > > > abnormality is detected. In particular it will > not allow more then a set > > > number of messages to be attempted through the > list. I would prefer to > > have > > > the list go down then have a loop fill our > mailboxes. > > > > > > The site hk1.hn.org is misconfigured and was > looping all messages back to > > the > > > list. The list filters such loops but it caused > the circuit breakers to > > fire > > > as an anomaly. Hence very few messages were > allowed to be sent today. > > > > > > I have manually resent the messages I believe were > blocked. Sorry! I > > want > > > to thank Jonathan Hays for alerting me to the > problem. > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Paul Borghese > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=25983&t=25791 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
