Great post, Paul.

I, for one, like this site.  Just got referred to it by several people who
said I should subscribe to these lists in order to provide an additional
study method for CCNP/DP and CCIE.

Thanks for the effort.

Sincerely,

Michael J. Doherty

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Borghese" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 23:47
Subject: Re: List Circuitbreakers fired [7:25791]


> I do not get paid to manage groupstudy as it is a hobby of mine consuming
> countless hours of time I should be spending with my family.  Every
vacation
> we take gets somehow interrupted by some issue with groupstudy.    Plus at
> times the we could have really used the money spent on GroupStudy for
other
> things.  Frankly my wife has been amazing supportive of the entire thing.
>
> I was talking to a friend of mine about the pains associated with managing
> this site.  He could not believe all the crap that I need to deal with on
a
> daily basis.  So the next day  I decided to keep a log of all of the
things
> that I needed to take care of for that particular day.  I was going to
> publish it but was later advised against it (see item 1).  In a nutshell,
on
> this one particular day I spent most of the day (in between doing my
"real"
> job):
>
> 1. Dealing with a person who was threatening to sue me over a posting
> another list member sent (under the belief that I am responsible).   This
> person was also suing the poster and the poster's company in an attempt to
> get the guy fired.  I know this because he insisted on courtesy copying
> everyone involved on all correspondence.  $100's of dollars in legal fees
> later I learned that the entire thing was frivolous and the courts were
> quite clear with numerous decisions that I am not liable.  The case was
> later dropped.   But it is still not pleasant to think that your financial
> future may be jepodized over a hobby.
>
> 2. Trying to help a person get off the list.  I needed him to send me a
> header of one of the e-mails but everytime I asked for the header he would
> respond with obscenities and demand to be removed.  But I needed the
headers
> to figure out how he was receiving the messages.  He ended up bouncing all
> of his messages (out of some sort of warped revenge) to my personal e-mail
> account.  But at least then I was able to view the header and get him off
> the list.  What I don't understand is if he was capable of bouncing
e-mails
> to a third account, why all the obscenity?  He should have understood the
> reasoning and just sent me the headers.
>
> 3.  Tracked someone down at Cisco's request who broke the CCIE NDA.
>
> 4. Did an interview for a magazine for an article on GroupStudy.com.
>
> 5. Tracked down a hacker who had broken into a companies machine and was
now
> attacking groupstudy.com.  After blocking that machine from GroupStudy, I
> wrote to the contacts listed in the whois database.  By some strange
> coincidence the security offer of the company called me (who I had never
> spoken to before) to discuss a matter concerning a posting on one of the
> lists that needs to be removed.  He had no idea there was this problem
with
> the hacker but was able to get me in contact with the technical people in
> the company so I could explain.
>
> If this was a job, believe me I would quit!
>
> We do sell a limited amount of banner ads, but that money goes towards the
> upkeep of the servers and lessens the burden of this site on me
financially.
> For a while I was spending close to $1000/month on bandwidth before InFlow
> rescued us by giving the site free bandwidth.  Now we seem to be at a
break
> even point and may even have enough money for that new shinny server I
have
> my eye on :-).
>
> So to make a long story short, Money OUT > Money IN while I believe most
> jobs use the formula Money IN > Money OUT.   But like a real job
> AGGRAVATION>APPRECIATION.
>
>
> Paul Borghese
>
> P.S.  Please let's improve the list by using our real names instead of
> cowarding behind a yahoo account and using anonymizer.com.  If you are not
> willing to say something with your name attached to it - it should not be
> said.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hoe Moe"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: List Circuitbreakers fired [7:25791]
>
>
> > How does doing your job make you a hero? I could see a
> > firefighter or a solider but someone who manages a
> > mailing list. Not a hero in my book. Besides he's
> > probably making a pretty penny off this list.
> >
> >
> >
> > ""JG""  wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I would like to thank mainly Paul Borghese, and lots
> > of unsung 'heroes'
> > > like Jonathan Hays in this case, for their
> > relentless effort to keep this
> > > list professional, up-to-par, and above all allowing
> > us this communication
> > > channel...
> > >
> > >  THANX GUYS
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >  Rgrds'
> > >  JG
> > >
> > >         ---==  Success, is where preparation, meets
> > opportunity  ==---
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Paul Borghese""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > This list has some custom "circuit breakers" we
> > have written that fire
> > > when
> > > > an
> > > > abnormality is detected.  In particular it will
> > not allow more then a set
> > > > number of messages to be attempted through the
> > list.  I would prefer to
> > > have
> > > > the list go down then have a loop fill our
> > mailboxes.
> > > >
> > > > The site hk1.hn.org is misconfigured and was
> > looping all messages back to
> > > the
> > > > list.  The list filters such loops but it caused
> > the circuit breakers to
> > > fire
> > > > as an anomaly.  Hence very few messages were
> > allowed to be sent today.
> > > >
> > > > I have manually resent the messages I believe were
> > blocked.   Sorry!  I
> > > want
> > > > to thank Jonathan Hays for alerting me to the
> > problem.
> > > >
> > > > Take care,
> > > >
> > > > Paul Borghese
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Find a job, post your resume.
> > http://careers.yahoo.com
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