>Why are you tracking people anyways? What do you have >to gain? You getting paid by knowing peoples real name >and company they work for? Maybe selling it to >recruiters?
Maybe helping detect spammers so they don't keep spewing? What, did you get delusions of grandeur reading a biography of "Tailgunner Joe" McCarthy? > >You're the reason why my company uses this kind of >secure internet service. It keeps people like you from >snooping around our network. If that isn't a personal attack, it's getting mighy close. > >Also I never attacked you personally and don't know >why you attacked me. It just seems that you would be >smart enough to make some cash off your site. No need >attack me for making a wrong assumption. No need to attack for making a wrong assumption. As to making a wrong assumption, and broadcasting it with innuendo, snidery, and scorn, 'cry havoc, and let loose the dogs of war...I mean...the trollhounds." Howard Berkowitz PS--Mr Moe, as far as I can tell from searching archives, has contributed only recently, and, aside from his attacks on Paul, only with such deathless prose as "read CCO." > >Hoe > > >""Paul Borghese"" wrote: > > >> I do not get paid to manage groupstudy as it is a >hobby of mine consuming >> countless hours of time I should be spending with my >family. Every vacation >> we take gets somehow interrupted by some issue with >groupstudy. Plus at >> times the we could have really used the money spent >on GroupStudy for other >> things. Frankly my wife has been amazing supportive >of the entire thing. >> >> I was talking to a friend of mine about the pains >associated with managing >> this site. He could not believe all the crap that I >need to deal with on a >> daily basis. So the next day I decided to keep a >log of all of the things >> that I needed to take care of for that particular >day. I was going to >> publish it but was later advised against it (see >item 1). In a nutshell, on >> this one particular day I spent most of the day (in >between doing my "real" >> job): >> >> 1. Dealing with a person who was threatening to sue >me over a posting >> another list member sent (under the belief that I am >responsible). This >> person was also suing the poster and the poster's >company in an attempt to >> get the guy fired. I know this because he insisted >on courtesy copying >> everyone involved on all correspondence. $100's of >dollars in legal fees >> later I learned that the entire thing was frivolous >and the courts were >> quite clear with numerous decisions that I am not >liable. The case was >> later dropped. But it is still not pleasant to >think that your financial >> future may be jepodized over a hobby. >> >> 2. Trying to help a person get off the list. I >needed him to send me a >> header of one of the e-mails but everytime I asked >for the header he would >> respond with obscenities and demand to be removed. >But I needed the headers >> to figure out how he was receiving the messages. He >ended up bouncing all >> of his messages (out of some sort of warped revenge) >to my personal e-mail >> account. But at least then I was able to view the >header and get him off >> the list. What I don't understand is if he was >capable of bouncing e-mails >> to a third account, why all the obscenity? He >should have understood the >> reasoning and just sent me the headers. >> >> 3. Tracked someone down at Cisco's request who >broke the CCIE NDA. >> >> 4. Did an interview for a magazine for an article on >GroupStudy.com. >> >> 5. Tracked down a hacker who had broken into a >companies machine and was now >> attacking groupstudy.com. After blocking that >machine from GroupStudy, I >> wrote to the contacts listed in the whois database. >By some strange >> coincidence the security offer of the company called >me (who I had never >> spoken to before) to discuss a matter concerning a >posting on one of the >> lists that needs to be removed. He had no idea >there was this problem with >> the hacker but was able to get me in contact with >the technical people in >> the company so I could explain. >> >> If this was a job, believe me I would quit! >> >> We do sell a limited amount of banner ads, but that >money goes towards the >> upkeep of the servers and lessens the burden of this >site on me financially. >> For a while I was spending close to $1000/month on >bandwidth before InFlow >> rescued us by giving the site free bandwidth. Now >we seem to be at a break >> even point and may even have enough money for that >new shinny server I have >> my eye on :-). >> >> So to make a long story short, Money OUT > Money IN >while I believe most >> jobs use the formula Money IN > Money OUT. But >like a real job >> AGGRAVATION>APPRECIATION. >> >> >> Paul Borghese >> >> P.S. Please let's improve the list by using our >real names instead of >> cowarding behind a yahoo account and using >anonymizer.com. If you are not >> willing to say something with your name attached to >it - it should not be >> said. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hoe Moe" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:43 PM >> Subject: Re: List Circuitbreakers fired [7:25791] >> >> >> > How does doing your job make you a hero? I could >see a >> > firefighter or a solider but someone who manages a >> > mailing list. Not a hero in my book. Besides he's >> > probably making a pretty penny off this list. >> > >> > >> > >> > ""JG"" wrote: >> > >> > >> > > I would like to thank mainly Paul Borghese, and >lots >> > of unsung 'heroes' >> > > like Jonathan Hays in this case, for their >> > relentless effort to keep this >> > > list professional, up-to-par, and above all >allowing >> > us this communication >> > > channel... >> > > >> > > THANX GUYS >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > >> > > Rgrds' >> > > JG >> > > >> > > ---== Success, is where preparation, >meets >> > opportunity ==--- >> > > >> > > >> > > ""Paul Borghese"" wrote in message >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> > > > Hi everyone, >> > > > >> > > > This list has some custom "circuit breakers" >we >> > have written that fire >> > > when >> > > > an >> > > > abnormality is detected. In particular it >will >> > not allow more then a set >> > > > number of messages to be attempted through the >> > list. I would prefer to >> > > have >> > > > the list go down then have a loop fill our >> > mailboxes. >> > > > >> > > > The site hk1.hn.org is misconfigured and was >> > looping all messages back to >> > > the >> > > > list. The list filters such loops but it >caused >> > the circuit breakers to >> > > fire >> > > > as an anomaly. Hence very few messages were >> > allowed to be sent today. >> > > > >> > > > I have manually resent the messages I believe >were >> > blocked. Sorry! I >> > > want >> > > > to thank Jonathan Hays for alerting me to the >> > problem. >> > > > >> > > > Take care, >> > > > >> > > > Paul Borghese >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Find a job, post your resume. >> > http://careers.yahoo.com >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Find a job, post your resume. >http://careers.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=25917&t=25791 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
