In all fairness, there are far more of us who have failed the Lab than passed, no matter what or whose study materials we've used. And there are plenty of CCIE's who earned theirs before any of these training aids were available.
Bootcamp materials are an excellent source of ideas and inspiration. They are by no means the only source. A former boss of mine, a CCIE herself, told me several times that everything she needed to pass is available for free on CCO. It's all a matter of determination and effort. Best wishes Chuck -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wright Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920] You've been selling your labs since July and no one has passed using them? I'd say they are a complete waste of money if that's the case. I've met the guys from ccbootcamp and I guarantee they run a first class operation. I think the smartest move is to use what has a proven track record in the CCIE process. > From: ""Michael Cinquanti"" > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920] > > > > I too am completely biased (since I'm the > Publisher of CertificationZone > > and we sell the IPexpert Lab Workbook), but the > fact that Mr. Ellis knows > > 150 CCIEs who have used his service does not > support the idea that > > one Lab reference is the *best choice*. Since the > ZONE has only been > > selling the IPexpert Lab Workbook since July, Brad > knows that we do not > yet > > have 150 customers who have used our book and > passed the Lab Exam. But > > based on the way our book is flying off the shelf > and based on the fact > > that qualified reviewers have told us that our > reference is an excellent > > study > > tool, I suspect that it won't be too long before > we do have that many > > CCIEs and more. > > > > As for constant updating, in the past three > months, the IPexpert Workbook > > has been updated two times and already includes a > sample lab in the new > > one-day format. Yet another Update is being > prepared now and will be > > distributed, free-of-charge, to anyone who owns a > previous version. > > > > We have also had people who've passed the lab and > people who've failed the > > lab review our book from cover-to-cover. The > results are unanimous. They > > think the IPexpert Book is a great preparation > resource for the Lab Exam > > and worth every penny it costs. We've published > one such review (from a > guy > > who's currently preparing for his second Lab Exam > attempt) at the ZONE > > website. We should have a second review (from a > guy who's already earned > > his CCIE) posted at the site sometime this month. > > > > But I can't answer Pieter-Jan's original question > -- and neither can Brad > > Ellis. Postings on Newsgroups and Mailing Lists > can be helpful, but don't > > depend completely on what you read there. I urge > all CCIE lab candidates > > looking for appropriate references to examine all > the alternatives > > carefully. Visit the websites, use e-mail and > those toll free phone > > numbers, examine the qualifications of the > authors, ask for references, > and > > contact those references directly. If you find two > you like and can afford > > to do so, buy them both. Good luck with the Lab > Exam. > > > > >I am completely biased (since I am one of the > owner's of NLI), but I do > know > > >of over 150 CCIE's that have used the ccbootcamp > labs to get their > CCIE...I > > >havent heard of one CCIE yet that has used the > other labs to get their #. > > >:) > > > > > >Also, the bootcamp labs are constantly being > updated and added on to. In > > >fact, we are in the process of modifying all of > our old labs by removing > the > > >obsolete technology and changing them to a 1-day > format (which means we > give > > >you pre-config files with IP addresses, not a > real big deal there). > > > > > >thanks, > > >-Brad Ellis > > >CCIE#5796 > > >Network Learning Inc > > >www.ccbootcamp.com > > > > > >""Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen"" wrote in message > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I'm looking to buy a CCIE Lab Workbook to > prepare for my CCIE Lab in > June > > >> 2002. > > >> I've found the following two on the net: > > >> > > >> - Certificationzone - IPexpert Lab Preparation > Workbook 2.0 > > >> - CCBootcamp - CCIE LAB Package Subscription > > >> > > >> Has anybody used these and which one is > considered the best choice? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen > > >> CCNP, CCDP, MCSE > > Mike Cinquanti > > President > > Genium Publishing Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26340&t=24920 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
