I wasn't trying to be mean at all. I'm sure they have a decent product. But my thought process is that ccbootcamp has a proven success record with teaching CCIE level material and I would prefer to stick with that type of history. Their website is www.ccbootcamp.com
-----Original Message----- From: Thompson, Kenny (K.) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:34 AM To: 'Jeremy Wright'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920] ouch! That was hard, but I think I will go with your suggestion Jeremy. In the mean time do you know the site for the ccboot camp so I can get the lab material. Rgds kenny -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920] You've been selling your labs since July and no one has passed using them? I'd say they are a complete waste of money if that's the case. I've met the guys from ccbootcamp and I guarantee they run a first class operation. I think the smartest move is to use what has a proven track record in the CCIE process. > From: ""Michael Cinquanti"" > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Preparation Workbook [7:24920] > > > > I too am completely biased (since I'm the > Publisher of CertificationZone > > and we sell the IPexpert Lab Workbook), but the > fact that Mr. Ellis knows > > 150 CCIEs who have used his service does not > support the idea that > > one Lab reference is the *best choice*. Since the > ZONE has only been > > selling the IPexpert Lab Workbook since July, Brad > knows that we do not > yet > > have 150 customers who have used our book and > passed the Lab Exam. But > > based on the way our book is flying off the shelf > and based on the fact > > that qualified reviewers have told us that our > reference is an excellent > > study > > tool, I suspect that it won't be too long before > we do have that many > > CCIEs and more. > > > > As for constant updating, in the past three > months, the IPexpert Workbook > > has been updated two times and already includes a > sample lab in the new > > one-day format. Yet another Update is being > prepared now and will be > > distributed, free-of-charge, to anyone who owns a > previous version. > > > > We have also had people who've passed the lab and > people who've failed the > > lab review our book from cover-to-cover. The > results are unanimous. They > > think the IPexpert Book is a great preparation > resource for the Lab Exam > > and worth every penny it costs. We've published > one such review (from a > guy > > who's currently preparing for his second Lab Exam > attempt) at the ZONE > > website. We should have a second review (from a > guy who's already earned > > his CCIE) posted at the site sometime this month. > > > > But I can't answer Pieter-Jan's original question > -- and neither can Brad > > Ellis. Postings on Newsgroups and Mailing Lists > can be helpful, but don't > > depend completely on what you read there. I urge > all CCIE lab candidates > > looking for appropriate references to examine all > the alternatives > > carefully. Visit the websites, use e-mail and > those toll free phone > > numbers, examine the qualifications of the > authors, ask for references, > and > > contact those references directly. If you find two > you like and can afford > > to do so, buy them both. Good luck with the Lab > Exam. > > > > >I am completely biased (since I am one of the > owner's of NLI), but I do > know > > >of over 150 CCIE's that have used the ccbootcamp > labs to get their > CCIE...I > > >havent heard of one CCIE yet that has used the > other labs to get their #. > > >:) > > > > > >Also, the bootcamp labs are constantly being > updated and added on to. In > > >fact, we are in the process of modifying all of > our old labs by removing > the > > >obsolete technology and changing them to a 1-day > format (which means we > give > > >you pre-config files with IP addresses, not a > real big deal there). > > > > > >thanks, > > >-Brad Ellis > > >CCIE#5796 > > >Network Learning Inc > > >www.ccbootcamp.com > > > > > >""Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen"" wrote in message > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I'm looking to buy a CCIE Lab Workbook to > prepare for my CCIE Lab in > June > > >> 2002. > > >> I've found the following two on the net: > > >> > > >> - Certificationzone - IPexpert Lab Preparation > Workbook 2.0 > > >> - CCBootcamp - CCIE LAB Package Subscription > > >> > > >> Has anybody used these and which one is > considered the best choice? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Pieter-Jan Bakhuyzen > > >> CCNP, CCDP, MCSE > > Mike Cinquanti > > President > > Genium Publishing Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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