Priscilla, Every component of the skills based exam is seen by the students during the semester. The academic portion is presented, and then one or more labs on that area are given. This volume of labs done during the semester, nearly 60, may also contribute to the problem. Version 2 of the curriculum combines and reduces the number of lab assignments. Time will tell whether this is good or bad.
In addition to my previous comment regarding clarity of the instructions, perhaps we are requiring too much in the time allotted. BTW, my students get to use any handwritten notes they have during the exam. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > It wasn't a wisecrack, but it wasn't very well stated. The final exam > should be a summary of what was taught and practiced in class. It shouldn't > contain surprises or new materials or test new skills that weren't > developed in the course. > > The course developer's goal should be that everyone passes. Everyone > passing means the course worked. That doesn't mean that everyone will. In > this particular example, I would imagine that to pass, a student has to > spend a lot of time practicing. Ensuring that is outside the course > developer's control. On the other hand, the course developer could > incorporate lots of labs, practice tests, etc., into the materials. It > sounds to me like the interim tests were multiple choice and the final was > hands-on. That's broken. > > Priscilla > > At 05:42 PM 12/16/01, Brian Whalen wrote: > >I really don't agree that everyone should pass, tho perhaps that was a > >wisecrack I didn't see. Inevitably in any class some students try and > >some don't. If everyone fails then yes perhaps that is a problem, but > >given the material difficulty, I would expect a substantial failure rate. > > > >Brian "Sonic" Whalen > >Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > > > > >On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Tom Lisa wrote: > > > > > I resemble that remark! > > > > > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > > > Community College of Southern Nevada > > > Cisco Regional Networking Academy > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > > > It sounds like some old-fashioned meanie wrote this test. > > > > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > > > At 12:32 PM 12/14/01, brian hall wrote: > > > > >Just a message to those who (like me!) thinking that reading, doing > labs > > > and > > > > >taking multiple choice test will prepare you for the real world and > > > > >(hopefully)the CCIE lab need to be exposed to cisco's network accademy > > > > >semester 5 skills final . I just took it yesterday and failed . In > fact > > > the > > > > >whole class failed!!!!. > > > > > > > > > >One of our students who scored high on most test and blazed through > the > > > > >final written exam in 10 mins, walked out in frustration . > > > > >Another student who works as an administrator, was are best chance of > > > having > > > > >someone pass missed it . I myself knew after an hour that if you don't > > > have > > > > >those commands down cold with a solid understanding of how to > implement > > > them > > > > >your GOOSE is cooked !!! . You do have the option to have your own > >written > > > > >notes to help but that might weigh you down if too much is in front of > > > you . > > > > >Working on idividual labs is one thing but putting the whole > environment > > > > >together is a whole different animal . > > > > > > > > > >Once given the actual skills asessment designing, implementing and > >trouble > > > > >shooting you assume that this ones in the bag . The environment wasn't > > > large > > > > >and looking back at the running config's there wasnt much to them > other > > > than > > > > >having MED and CBAC . Ah!!! but how wrong I was!!! I'll spare the > >details > > > > >and say that this was an eye opener . It showed me what I really don't > > > know > > > > >and to do the job in the real world will take a lot work on my part FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
