Although I would prefer that all my students passed on the first try, you are correct in your assessment. Unfortunately, having passed the CCNA exam does not guarantee success at the CCNP level. I have stated before that I like to compare the Cisco certs to the Crafts skills designators. I consider the CCNA an apprentice, the CCNP journeyman, and CCIE master craftsman level of expertise. Not all apprentices make it to the journeyman level and very few journeymen ascend to the Master craftsman level.
Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Brian Whalen wrote: > I really don't agree that everyone should pass, tho perhaps that was a > wisecrack I didn't see. Inevitably in any class some students try and > some don't. If everyone fails then yes perhaps that is a problem, but > given the material difficulty, I would expect a substantial failure rate. > > Brian "Sonic" Whalen > Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Tom Lisa wrote: > > > I resemble that remark! > > > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > > Community College of Southern Nevada > > Cisco Regional Networking Academy > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > It sounds like some old-fashioned meanie wrote this test. > > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > At 12:32 PM 12/14/01, brian hall wrote: > > > >Just a message to those who (like me!) thinking that reading, doing labs > > and > > > >taking multiple choice test will prepare you for the real world and > > > >(hopefully)the CCIE lab need to be exposed to cisco's network accademy > > > >semester 5 skills final . I just took it yesterday and failed . In fact > > the > > > >whole class failed!!!!. > > > > > > > >One of our students who scored high on most test and blazed through the > > > >final written exam in 10 mins, walked out in frustration . > > > >Another student who works as an administrator, was are best chance of > > having > > > >someone pass missed it . I myself knew after an hour that if you don't > > have > > > >those commands down cold with a solid understanding of how to implement > > them > > > >your GOOSE is cooked !!! . You do have the option to have your own written > > > >notes to help but that might weigh you down if too much is in front of > > you . > > > >Working on idividual labs is one thing but putting the whole environment > > > >together is a whole different animal . > > > > > > > >Once given the actual skills asessment designing, implementing and trouble > > > >shooting you assume that this ones in the bag . The environment wasn't > > large > > > >and looking back at the running config's there wasnt much to them other > > than > > > >having MED and CBAC . Ah!!! but how wrong I was!!! I'll spare the details > > > >and say that this was an eye opener . It showed me what I really don't > > know > > > >and to do the job in the real world will take a lot work on my part . > > > > > > > >Buyer Beware !!! > > > > > > > >Overall it was good to go through and to be pushed just shows the weak > > areas > > > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ________________________ > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29418&t=29212 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]